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Subject: Re: Adjusting Peak, Average, Mean Curves

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kylen

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Date Posted: 11:19:37 09/02/03 Tue
In reply to: Har-Bal 's message, "Re: Adjusting Peak, Average, Mean Curves" on 05:38:06 09/02/03 Tue

>Why Har-Bal records both relates to how, in some
>music, problem resonances can stand out more in the
>peak spectrum than in the average one. An example
>might be a particularly strong instrument solo in the
>middle of a track that has one or two really loud
>resonances of short duration. If loud enough it will
>stand out in the peak spectrum but if they don't last
>long then they wont be very visible in the average
>one. Such a loud resonant peak might well be
>uncomfortable to listen to but if all you had to go by
>was the average trace then you might well find it
>difficult to figure out where the problem lies.
>
>What I've found is that if you want the dynamics of
>the track to sound controlled then concentrate on the
>peak spectrum trace (yellow) and if you want to
>preserve the dynamics but just get the balance right
>use the average spectrum trace (green) and if you want
>a compromise use the geometric mean trace (red).

Thank you Har-Bal. I will try keeping this great explaination in mind while making adjustments. There are times I'll be dealing with the average curve to balance the overall EQ. There are also time when I have to deal with peaks and from my experiment the other day it looks like a combination of pushing the peak down with Har-Bal and using just a touch of multi-band limiting on the same peak can do wonders. I pushed a particularly nasty peak in the hi mids down using Har-Bal the other day and this worked really well.

With really out of balance material (slopes > 6db within a band) that also includes nasty peaks (9dB ranges) it's a real trade off. Do I EQ it and lose the frequencies there, or attempt to multiband it and increase the density. You can hear both things when too much of either is used. So a combination of the two should work pretty well. I'm still learning how to do that - front ending a multiband limiter (gain reduction 1 or 2 dB) with a great parametric EQ (gain reduction 1 or 2 dBb) like Har-Bal. The reason I say great is because Har-Bal is attempting to show me what to adjust, I have a bunch of paraEQs but without some feedback (peak and average curves) concerning what to adjust they can be very dangerous !

kylen

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Subject	Author	Date
Re: Adjusting Peak, Average, Mean Curves	kylen	12:12:47 09/02/03 Tue
Re: Adjusting Peak, Average, Mean Curves -- Har-Bal, 05:25:11 09/03/03 Wed