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Subject: Read LGM's public apology to MM Lee here in its full glory


Author:
ccn666
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Date Posted: Fri, May 13 2005, 1:06:22

Witnessing LGM continue to con more and more unsuspecting victims with timeshare scams in Singapore after more than a decade: Helpless

Witnessing LGM issuing a public apology and paying damages to MM LKY for misusing his good name to peddle timeshare scams: Priceless


Litigation may be very costly and time-consuming but it has proven to be the only method to work against LGM.

This public apology is only available in the hardcopy of The Straits Times, Home Section Page 3 on Thursday, May 12, 2005 (and the hardcopy of Today) and it deserved to be properly framed up for the benefit of generations to come.

Does this mean that it's the beginning of the end for LGM? Yes, let's all hope so. I for one certainly hope so ... the sooner the better.

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APOLOGY

1. In a brochure to market our holiday and vacation products and services, we, Holiday Marketing International Pte Ltd and L.G.M. Limited, published a photograph of Mr Lee Kuan Yew with his name and his (then) office of Senior Minister, together with a quote from Mr Lee Kuan Yew to The Reader's Digest about his holidays with his family.

2. We recognise that the use of Mr Lee Kuan Yew's photograph, name, office and quote suggest and mean or will be understood to mean that Mr Lee Kuan Yew, when he was Senior Minister, had consented to the use of his photograph, name, office and quote for publicity, either for gain or to sponsor our business, and that Mr Lee Kuan Yew had done so by taking advantage of his position as Senior Minister.

3. We admit and acknowledge that the allegation and suggestion are false and completely without foundation. We recognise and unconditionally accept that Mr Lee Kuan Yew has never used, or permitted the use of, his name, office and position for gain or to sponsor any business. At no time did Mr Lee Kuan Yew consent to the use of his photograph, name, office and quote for our brochure.

4. We unreservedly apologise to Mr Lee Kuan Yew for the distress and embarrassment caused to him by this false allegation. We undertake not to make further allegations or suggestions to the same or similar effect.

5. We have agreed to pay Mr Lee Kuan Yew damages by way of compensation, and to indemnify him for all the costs and expenses incurred by him in connection with this matter.

HOLIDAY MARKETING INTERNATIONAL PTE LTD
L.G.M. LIMITED

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[> Subject: A step forward ...


Author:
Oh oh
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Date Posted: Sat, May 14 2005, 1:27:14

If Holiday Marketing International and Leisure Group Marketing are so desperate to resort to even using Senior Minister Mr. Lee Kuan Yew photograph, name, office and quote without his consent to promote their companies & 'packages', they might be in a pathetic state right now in terms of cashflow.

As I've stated before, manage your cashflow and give these "scammers" (timeshare companies) a hard time getting your money.

Afterall these "scammers" can't engage Small Court Tribunal to chase anyone for debts owed below S$10k because Small Court Tribunal does not handle timeshare related transactions and no one can be declared a bankrupt in Singapore for debts less than S$10k. (You can check with the relevant authorities to be sure about these yourself).

While you delay your payments to these "scammers", they will have to manage on their own to pay office rental and their staff. In addition, you can possibly use these delayed payments to engage a lawyer yourself and stop your suffering. Your delayed payments will also increase their paperwork and tracking.

If they resort to getting lawyer to chase debts on their behalf, for each letter written by the lawyer using lawyer firms letterhead to each member who is owing their companies, they will have to pay couple of hundreds and in Singapore you won't be declared a bankrupt for total debts below S$10k.

These "scammers" also have no right to slam interest charges for such amounts owing out of the blue unless it formed part of the contracts that were signed between "scammers" and the timeshare victims.

Do what deems fit for your particular situation, every victim has different progress/scenario/story.

Take care
Oh oh

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[> Subject: How much did HMI and LGM pay MM Lee?


Author:
ccn666
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Date Posted: Tue, May 17 2005, 2:36:35

Well, how much exactly did HMI and LGM pay MM Lee?

Based on the TODAY news report,
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On April 11, Mr Lee's lawyers senior counsel Davinder Singh and Mr Hri Kumar from law firm Drew & Napier sent a letter of demand to both companies.

"They agreed to apologise shortly after the letter of demand was sent to them," said Mr Kumar, who declined to reveal how much was paid in damages. "They have accepted that the words (in the quote) suggested that Mr Lee was endorsing the product."

LGM and HMI declined comment when contacted by Today last night.

In 1995, opposition Member of Parliament Chiam See Tong was awarded $50,000 in a High Court suit against a Chinese restaurant that used his picture in a newspaper advertisement and flyers without his permission.
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Then the lowest amount that MM Lee could have received was $50,000 if Chiam See Tong was awarded $50,000 but that will be impossible because MM Lee has a social standing that is so much higher than Chiam, so who wants to hazard a guess?

$100,000?

$150,000?

Well, whatever the amount was, I concur with Oh oh. Let us all the victims of LGM do our best to bleed LGM dry by delaying payments and/or suing those bastards silly.

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[> Subject: Re: Read LGM's public apology to MM Lee here in its full glory


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2005, 22:11:13

Oh my god.. theres really a hentam site against LGM....

hahahahahahah...serves them right!!!!!!!
jeezezz I'm not the only one.....

Just checking.....how to offload the thing that we bought from LGM????

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[> Subject: Re: Read LGM's public apology to MM Lee here in its full glory


Author:
Oh no...
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Date Posted: Tue, Jun 21 2005, 11:37:03

Oh no.. if this LGM gonna pay MM Lee. They could have lost most of the $$$$. How are they gonna refund us back the $$$ that has been con..... And if they declare bankrupt. we will lost our $$$$ Sob Sob....

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[> Subject: Re: Read LGM's public apology to MM Lee here in its full glory


Author:
Rashid
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Date Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2005, 20:49:10

What they pay MMLee is just a fraction of what they gain from people like us.

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