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>>>>>> ... the Israeli's will have to give up the >>>occupied territories very soon...with or without a >>>peace treaty...they killed Hamas leader Yassin and >>>have kept Arafat under practical house arrest ... <<< >>>..... As I see it, the war that by invading on 3 >>>fronts the Arabs started by their invasion of >>>Palestine on May 15th, 1948, is still continuing, and >>>all sides of a war are doing their best to obtain >>>victory for their side. Any territory captured by >>>military activities belongs on a temporary basis to >>>the side that can hold it by military might (=right) >>>until there is a peace treaty that decides the final, >>>hopefully permanent, borders. >> >>A small nitpick, most of the "Arabs" aren't even true >>arabs. Many are medeterranean Whites. >> >>>..... All those who have been <U>proven</U> to have >>>killed, and/or intend to kill, and/or >planned/arranged >>>for others to kill, and/or who assist others to kill >>>innocent civilians is, except they are members of >>>police or similar legal body, as I see it, to be >>>killed as soon as possible themselves, at any time, >>>anywhere, on any side of any conflict. Such people >>>deserve nothing less. >>>..... There must be "proper" and really working >>>incentives to REDUCE hatreds by all involved; >>>unfortunately many military activiies cause more and >>>more hate as a byproduct of a spiral of retaliations. >>>..... In the old days there used to be battlefields >>>where trained, uniformed killers legally murdered one >>>another. These days the battlefields have been moved >>>into areas frequented by civilians, and many killers >>>do no longer wear uniforms; they therefore are NOT >>>covered by various conventions, treaties etc. >relating >>>to prisoners of war, nor conduct involved in warfare. >>>..... Obviously those who do not/did not give their >>>victims an opportunity to defend themselves in a >court >>>of law are NOT entitled, during a war, to lawyers or >>>other legal assistance/defense either, nor are they >>>covered by "human rights" provisions during a war. >>>..... During any war all sorts of lies, slander, >>>libel, propaganda, speculations, and "psychological >>>warfare" must be expected on all sides of the >>>conflict. War is hell, and the losing side(s) must be >>>expected to "throw the kitchen sink" into battle as a >>>last resort. >> >>The thing going on between Israel and Palestine will >>not be resolved unless Palestine secedes into its own >>seperate nation. >> >>A note of interest: Many of today's "Palestinians" >>aren't the true Palestinians of days past. Many are >>recent immigrants from Sudan, Ethiopia, and Chad.

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