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Date Posted: 08:51:46 07/21/07 Sat
Author: Randy (TexasReb)
Author Host/IP: cpe-66-25-204-230.sw.res.rr.com / 66.25.204.230
Subject: Re: Texas is not part of teh south!!!
In reply to: Travieso 's message, "Re: Texas is not part of teh south!!!" on 21:26:00 07/20/07 Fri

>>I have a Bachelors degree from University of Texas at
>>Austin in History. I took some grad hours there, but
>>got my Masters at Southwest Texas (now it's Texas
>>State) because they had more night class then UT.
>>

Hook 'em Horns! \../


>>Also, I have to admit that since I'm a teacher as well
>>and it's raining constantly, I have a lot of time on
>>my hands. lol. No randy, you seem like a good guy. You
>>are definitely intelligent and I like how you
>>research.

Yes, we teachers do have some benefits in the form of lots of time off...which makes up somewhat for the lousy pay! LOL

Thank you very much for your kind words, Travis. And you too have brought some well-researched and interesting facts into the exchange, even if might disagree on their application. The important thing is that we have kept it civil and courteous, and don't take disagreement personal. As someone smart once said, if you surround youself with people who always agree with you, then you never learn anything! :-)


>>I am really a big fan of Texas history. A really good
>>book about texas history in "Texian Iliad" about the
>>revolution. Chipman also wrote a great book called
>>"Spanish Texas". de la Teja also wrote a good book
>>about Juan Seguin that I really enjoyed.

I seem to recall reading the former book at one time, and SEEMS like I have heard of the latter. I know that Seguin cast his lot with the Texicans during the Texas Revolution, but didn't he later return to Mexico...?

>>I really like the texas revolution and pre-revolution
>>history. You could most definitely out argue me on the
>>civil war. It has been so long since I read anything
>>on the civil war that I'm basically a civil war idiot
>>(lol).

LOL The War Between the States has always been a subject of interest to me. In turn, I really don't know all that much about truly early Texas history (that is, prior to when Stephen F. Austin founded the first colony). The Texas Revolution though has always been one I enjoyed reading about. Have you ever read "Duel of Eagles" by Jeff Long? It is very much "revisionist" history and fairly "anti-Texican" in my opinion, on the Battle of the Alamo. However, no doubt it is well researched and gives some perspective from the Mexican point of view that a lot of "traditional" Texas history on the subject have left out.

>>I also like modern texas history esp. after
>>spindletop. I think Spindletop really changed the
>>direction of texas and set it apart from neighboring
>>states. Texas didn't just become modern, it shaped
>>modern america with it's dependence on cheap oil and
>>all the cultural implications because of a cheap
>>energy source.

Yes, the oil boom of the early 20th Century was one of those things, like the "cattle boom" after the "Civil War" which definitely had the effect of distinguishing Texas some from the other states of the former Confederacy.

>>Anyway, I can't chat much more, because the rain has
>>stopped. But, it was nice chatting. Thanks.

Enjoyed it Travis, and I would say the original topic has pretty much run its course in terms of both of us stating our cases! LOL However, feel free to drop me a personal e-mail anytime as it is always fun to share/discuss Texas history and culture with another interested in the same. Besides, if we don't take it to e-mail, we will soon have this thread of ours taking up half the Message Board! LOL

>>Travieso

Best Regards,
Randy

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