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Date Posted: 05:28:06 07/21/04 Wed
Author: Rick Mathes author of Allah or Jesus
Subject: Re: Half truths and Deception.....Read on
In reply to: Lover of Democracy 's message, "Half truths and Deception.....Read on" on 18:45:37 02/08/04 Sun

> Defending Your Faith
>
>http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/rickmathes.html
>
>
> (1/21/2004) Since the horrible events of September
>11, 2001, the Islamic faith has fallen under
>magnifying glass. Desperate to know why so many
>innocent people had to die, many folks have tried to
>demonstrate that the Muslim faith is intrinsically
>violent and largely to blame. Given this social tone,
>it is not surprising that this chain letter,
>supposedly putting one of Islam's own on the spot, has
>become so popular. At the very least, we can say this
>is a one-sided acount of the events.
>
>By Rick Mathes
>
>Last month I attended my annual training session
>that's required for maintaining my state prison
>security clearance. During the training session there
>was a presentation by three speakers representing the
>Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths who
>explained their belief systems. I was particularly
>interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.
>
>The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of
>Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations,
>time was provided for questions and answers. When it
>was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and
>sked, "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I
>understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have
>declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels
>of the world and, that by killing an infidel, which is
>a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place
>in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the
>definition of an infidel?"
>
>There was no disagreement with my statements and
>without hesitation he replied, "Non-believers!"
>
>I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this
>straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded
>to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can
>go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
>
>The expression on his face changed from one of
>authority and command to that of a little boy who had
>just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He
>sheepishly replied, "Yes."
>
>I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem
>trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all
>Catholics to kill those of your faith or Pat Robertson
>or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in
>order to go to Heaven!"
>
>The Imam was speechless.
>
>I continued, "I also have problem with being your
>friend when you and your brother clerics are telling
>your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question!
>...would you rather have your Allah who tells you to
>kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells
>me to love you because I am going to Heaven and wants
>you to be with me?"
>
>You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his
>head in shame.
>
>Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained
>me these 20 years of prison ministry. He said to me,
>"Rick, remember that the truth will prevail."
>
>And it will!
>
>
>
>Rick Mathes and his wife Trish are the founders of
>Mission Gate Prison Ministries, an outreach to those
>who are incarcerated and their families. The essay
>above was offered in the ministry's subscription
>newsletter and appears in the version above unchanged
>from its original.
>
>
>
Dear Editor,
You have my permission to use this article in any way that blesses our Lord. Please include my email MissionGateMinisry@msn.com for those that would like to comment. Thank you for this consideration. Should you wish future articles, please register at my web site: www.missiongateministry.org and I will oblige.
Press On!
Rick Mathes
Simmering Volcano
By Rick Mathes
America is in an epidemic of crime that is sweeping the inner-cities and plying on the young minorities to “join the family.” In St. Louis as well as in other major cities the majority of children are born to fatherless homes and ironically most black men killed are murdered by black men. And our prisons are disproportionately populated by a black population. And now the nation of Islam is sweeping up those that our educational system and racial prejudices have left behind. How can anyone be surprised that minority retribution is cloaking itself within the blessings of Allah? Dumbing-down is backfiring!

Financed by the white suburban addicts buying up all the “white” heroin and meth anyone can produce, these home grown terrorists are raping and pillaging their own neighborhoods as gang after gang hook up with radical Muslims that will not denounce their evil intentions. The silence of the American Muslim community is deafening. Is anyone awake? The volcano is about to explode.

Prisons are a breeding ground for those who have found violence, crime and drug dealing as a way out of the ghetto. When an inmate is released to society he returns to those “who will take care of him” and stands proudly as a parole that has “earned his stripes.” The young gangsters look up to him and all that he has learned while incarcerated by the “Department of Education.” (Or was that Department of Corrections?) The system doesn’t work and more of what doesn’t work, won’t work!

It has been estimated that at the rate of “black flight” from St. Louis, by the year 2037 the last porch light will go out. The city will be desolate and the suburbs will be the new battle ground. That won’t happen but we can’t ignore those that are left behind and the fractured families that are at the mercy of the militant Muslims that make “Osama bin Laden” look like “Mr. Rogers.”

American terrorists are finding their way into the Muslim community and masking their violence and crime with the blessings of Allah. The Koran points the way to a “better society” that excludes those who don’t believe (infidels). So all those unbelievers are the enemy and the victory must go to Allah no matter what it takes or who it harms in the process.

The fatal attraction is not in some far distant country, it is within the very soul of our major cities.

Someone, someday will pen the “Rise and Fall of America” and maybe we have helped him write the final chapter with our tolerance of the silent Muslim community that may very well be a simmering volcano.

>
>
>The veracity of the claims made in it, however, is the
>author's to prove. Unfortunately, Rick Mathes told
>BreakTheChain.org that he will not provide further
>details "because I fear retribution - I have a 20 year
>prison ministry to protect."
>
>Third-party accounts of the events in question paint a
>significantly different picture than the one offered
>by Mathes. Tim Kniest, spokesman for the Missouri
>Department of Corrections, told the Lee news service
>that the training session in question was for prison
>volunteers and took place in a corrections facility in
>Fulton, MO. However, according to Kniest, prison
>officials' recollection of events that day differ from
>Mathes' in several instances:
>
>Religious leaders representing faiths followed by
>current inmates were invited to present.
>
>The presenter on Islam was not an Imam, but rather a
>Muslim inmate who was pressed into presenting after no
>Imam could be arranged.
>
>Prison officials confirm that the Muslim inmate was
>asked a few questions that he was unable to answer,
>but none along the lines of those suggested by Mr.
>Mathes.
>Mathes, however, maintains that his is an accurate
>account, using the facts he knew at the time, and did
>go into some more detail making the encounter seem
>less antagonistic than his original account:
>
>"...the inmate was introduced as an 'Imam'. Mr. Kneist
>was not there to know what was said or not and cannot
>disprove that what I wrote wasn't said. In fact when I
>said, 'I have a hard time being your friend when your
>faith says to kill me to go to heaven.' everyone burst
>out laughing. When his presentation was over and it
>was time for a break, we all felt sorry for the inmate
>including my self. In fact I gave him a sign and said
>'Salaam' and he responded with a knowing smile.
>Knowing that there wasn't any animosity between us.
>
>"I really asked the questions I needed to know the
>answers to and he did not respond as I thought he
>would have. I expected him to defend this "jihad"
>thing as rebel Muslims using religion to cloak their
>evil deed in.
>
>"His silence leads me to conclude that either he was
>ignorant of his faith, was caught off guard and
>speechless, or agreed with my premise and conclusion
>(which I think he was).
>
>"I am getting 24 emails in favor of the article to 1
>against. We all agree that there is a "simmering
>volcano" in the Muslim community. Give me an Imam that
>will sing "God Bless America" or will say the "Pledge
>of Allegiance to the Flag" and I will listen to them
>discredit the fears we have about the Muslim community
>and all that we see and hear in the media. Until the
>American Muslim community speaks up, I have my doubts
>about those who join them."
>
>
>
>Nonetheless, this essay falls short of being the proof
>that Islam's leaders cannot deny the violent nature of
>their own religion that many would have it be. Since
>both sides of the argument have recognized that the
>person Mathes was questioning was not an Islamic
>official nor a recognized expert in the religion, his
>actions should not be considered indicative of all
>Muslims. Break this chain.

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