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Date Posted: 08:31:11 02/02/04 Mon
Author: Christine
Subject: Re: Unsure about Mary Kay, need some help
In reply to: Michelle Gauvreau 's message, "Unsure about Mary Kay, need some help" on 19:10:33 01/25/04 Sun

Beware if you don't intend on really working the business. I have been a consultant for 2+ years and it definitely has it's ups and downs. The trick is to make it work for you and roll with the changes. You can't give up but you also can't get yourself into credit card debt either. Make sure you are able to sell the product - don't simply stockpile inventory and hope that customers "will come". They won't. It's up to you. If you don't have the determination, don't bother. Been there, doing that.

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[> [> Re: Unsure about Mary Kay, need some help -- Deb, 21:46:20 04/02/04 Fri [1]

I was a Director for Mary Kay for several years, earned 2 cars and was in the National Court of Sales twice. I resigned last Fall after deciding that working 80 hours a week and never seeing my family wasn't worth a car and a $1500 paycheck. Mary Kay is a racket and is the most dishonest, fake, superficial, sleezy Company I have ever known. They TOTALLY (with much help from the Directors and Sales Force) take advantage of women who are trying to make some extra money. The Consultants lie about their success and exaggerate how much money they make - MOST aren't making a dime and are thousands of dollars in debt from inventory. The 90% buy back guarantee is a lie - there's more to it than just returning your product and getting a check - much more. I made some money (many Directors are broke and I have a friend who had a Cadillac and 2 Director offspring her first year who also resigned last Fall - never looking back, and 2 Director friends that filed bankruptcy) but my Consultants made nothing - even those with 8+ recruits. It's terrible - Mary Kay knows this is going on and they do nothing - they just keep selling selling selling to Consultants while the products sit in their basement and the credit card bills keep coming.
PLEASE don't even CONSIDER joining this terrible Company - you'll regret it for sure.


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[> [> [> Bankrupt? -- Sheri, 19:42:27 05/08/04 Sat [1]

">I was a Director for Mary Kay for several years,
>earned 2 cars and was in the National Court of Sales
>twice. I resigned last Fall after deciding that
>working 80 hours a week and never seeing my family
>wasn't worth a car and a $1500 paycheck. Mary Kay is
>a racket and is the most dishonest, fake, superficial,
>sleezy Company I have ever known. They TOTALLY (with
>much help from the Directors and Sales Force) take
>advantage of women who are trying to make some extra
>money. The Consultants lie about their success and
>exaggerate how much money they make - MOST aren't
>making a dime and are thousands of dollars in debt
>from inventory. The 90% buy back guarantee is a lie -
>there's more to it than just returning your product
>and getting a check - much more. I made some money
>(many Directors are broke and I have a friend who had
>a Cadillac and 2 Director offspring her first year who
>also resigned last Fall - never looking back, and 2
>Director friends that filed bankruptcy) but my
>Consultants made nothing - even those with 8+
>recruits. It's terrible - Mary Kay knows this is
>going on and they do nothing - they just keep selling
>selling selling to Consultants while the products sit
>in their basement and the credit card bills keep
>coming.
>PLEASE don't even CONSIDER joining this terrible
>Company - you'll regret it for sure."



I am interested in knowing how Directors went bankrupt? I have been a consultant for two years now. I started off as a personal user who wanted to get a discount and not pay full price. In the meantime, my client base has grown to family and a lot of friends. I am by no means rich, but I am not in debt either. I know many Directors and Consultants, not one of them is broke, or going bankrupt. Would these be a situation of poor money management? You don't just go bankrupt in a few weeks. I also firmly believe, whether you work for yourself or for an employer. If you go bankrupt, it's your own fault. And such an easy way to NOT pay the debt back. If I decide to not pay a bill and something gets cut off, I don't blame it on my boss. I put the blame firmly where it would belong-on my shoulders.

I also do not know another Director that worked that many hours in one week-wow! It sounds to me like you're angry that you didn't get your unit to sell. I mean they made nothing? Or did they not make enough for you? If a whole Unit isn't doing that poorly then I would take a good look at their Director and ask, "What's up?" I know that there has to be more to this than that, it sounds like bitterness to me.

Sheri


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