So true! As in the swordplay scene, where John bests Hal, there's a strong sense that Hal much prefers to be the "older brother", be the one who is "on top". John comments about how he even lets Hal win sometimes, I think, because he doesn't mind, and it makes Hal feel that things are properly balanced if his little brother is not able to best him. But I hadn't thought about how much Hal would have wanted to be the one to figure out the secret and vindicate the family honor. They both have a strong sense of their own very different roles as the elder/younger sons, and Hal is the unchallenged head of the family, except when John can't help himself, because of his own sense of honor, duty, or -- sometimes -- stubbornness. -- LJG Discussion board

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Date Posted: 12:31:24 10/19/07 Fri
Author: pamelalass
Subject: So true! As in the swordplay scene, where John bests Hal, there's a strong sense that Hal much prefers to be the "older brother", be the one who is "on top". John comments about how he even lets Hal win sometimes, I think, because he doesn't mind, and it makes Hal feel that things are properly balanced if his little brother is not able to best him. But I hadn't thought about how much Hal would have wanted to be the one to figure out the secret and vindicate the family honor. They both have a strong sense of their own very different roles as the elder/younger sons, and Hal is the unchallenged head of the family, except when John can't help himself, because of his own sense of honor, duty, or -- sometimes -- stubbornness.
In reply to: Helka 's message, "Yes, Pamela, the brothers aren't always on the same page and John is irritated by being kept in the dark. If the both of them had shared their knowledge they would have solved the secret around their father much earlier. I bet Hal didn't like that little brother solved the case alone, by hunting "a wild goose"." on 09:57:09 10/19/07 Fri

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