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Date Posted: 18:37:33 12/14/05 Wed
Author: ben
Author Host/IP: netblock-72-25-103-119.dslextreme.com / 72.25.103.119
Subject: Re: WHAT PLANET ARE YOU PEOPLE FROM?!?! (third one from the sun)
In reply to: Mike 's message, "WHAT PLANET ARE YOU PEOPLE FROM?!?!" on 11:21:58 12/09/05 Fri

no no no, ya don't get it!!!!! if ya looked at the site about beer ads

http://counter-ads.net/

ya would have seen that I point out there are good and bad point to capitalism. As it stands for the most part I don't think there is any moral rudder so to speak with capitalism, it's all about massive consumption or about getting people to buy into some dream image a person or company makes up for their product or service, even though it might be a big POS.

FYI one part of my formal education made me look at the big picture, like how the universe was formed and another part made me look at political and economic systems and how they interact. Kind of amazing I still have sense of curiosity despite a formal education, anyway IMHO the big picture is capitalism and branding is unsustainable in the long run...

BTW I have not had a chance to really explore north korea but I have been to south korea, for the most part all ya can do is walk around the table to the other side at the DMZ. I have been able to explore Cuba at length and even even posted some thoughts on good and bad points on variouse political systems


http://phaster.com/unpretentious/cuba_y2k_story_01.html


so if ya can honestly say your the "millionaire next door" type which means ya some an above average means and kind of work hard and actually been abroad and lived in societies diametrically opposed to what occurs here in the united states, then we might be able to have a discourse, not just bunch of name calling like they have on talk radio.

BTW if ya think I'm a damn liberal elite type, ya might be right, cause I know I'm better, richer, better looking, smarter, etc. than the average person....


>Yea, yea, yea I get it. Capitalism is bad. Branding
>which contributes to higher consumer spending, which
>in turn generates wealth, and increases the standard
>of living for every citizen who is part of the economy
>[after all the economy as a whole is just an aggregate
>of each individuals wealth] is bad. The government
>should just take everyone’s money, use it on
>ineffective wasteful social programs, and redistribute
>the remaining wealth [if there is any] equally. That
>way we’ll all be equally poor.
>
>I suggest you people take a couple of economics
>classes before you start shooting off your mouth.
>Then you'll understand how a free market economy works
>and why it is good. Or failing that go get a TEFL
>certificate and teach English in Cuba or North Korea
>[they’re hurting for English teachers after all so
>they will take you] and actually live under a
>totalitarian communist [after all it's the opposite of
>democratic capitalist] system for a few months. Then
>tell me how horrible capitalism is.
>
>And as for your anti-alcohol propaganda which was what
>brought me to this site in the first place via google;
>the girl in the photo was a victim of someone else’s
>illegal, dangerous, and irresponsible behavior not
>because Budweiser makes beer. While your at it you
>might as well blame the automobile manufacturers that
>made both cars, the companies that made the rubber
>used in the tires, and the government because their
>made the roads. I mean if the government didn’t pave
>that road there never would have been an accident.
>And this terrible accident certainly wasn’t the fault
>of the two jackasses who decided to down half a bottle
>of vodka and then go speeding down the highway in
>order to get to their friends after graduation party
>in time. Budweiser is no more responsible for that
>accident then spoons are responsible for making
>Michael Moore fat. Wake up and start demanding that
>people are held accountable for their actions instead
>of blaming everyone and everything but the
>purportrator.

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