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Date Posted: 11:32:47 03/22/07 Thu
Author: Chad B
Subject: Regurgitation or Learning?

I brought this up in MUS 110: There is a difference between regurgitating music and learning music. To be told how to produce a pitch on an instrument and play rhythms can result in a terrific performance, but has the student actually learned anything about music? As music educators, we need to be certain our methods are resulting in more than an ability to recite what is provided. What are some of your ideas about how music teachers, of any kind, could ensure this result?

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[> Re: Regurgitation or Learning? -- Amanda M., 15:39:46 03/22/07 Thu [1]

I think that in a lot of schools, performance is concentrated on more than the actual learning and improvement of the ensembles skills. The idea is to teach the students, not to just play the piece and move on taking nothing from what they have performed.To help enforce skills, perhaps the director could have the students apply what they should have learned through sight reading or warm-up exercises.


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[> Re: Regurgitation or Learning? -- Nickie, 19:06:56 03/22/07 Thu [1]

We also talked about this in our MUS 374 class (with Dr. Owen). We discussed how it really should be a requirement that every student be able to perform at least one piece MUSICALLY by the time they graduate. It's hard to assess this, but don't you think it's rare that you actually hear a MUSICAL performance? We should really be aiming to teach our students how to perform musically, not just technically well.


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[> Re: Regurgitation or Learning? -- Beth G., 08:27:06 03/25/07 Sun [1]

I was thinking about band in high school and remembering all the music we played.The music was pretty easy so that everyone could just play it back(regurgitation)and we were not that good at all. The conductor never promoted any further understanding of the music or actual learning. I think that we never grew to play any more difficult music because of that. If the conductor was to maybe explain the music more in depth, the students may be able to have a higher understanding.


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[> Re: Regurgitation or Learning? -- Emma, 16:26:19 03/25/07 Sun [1]

Excellent question, one I havent really ever put much thought into. Being able to produce the tone and proper rhythms is learning, becuase it may be a new pitch or rhythm, and it more than likely will occur again. Its all in what the director chooses to emphasize as to if they are learning or not. And by improving ensemble skills you are learning in a way as well.


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[> Re: Regurgitation or Learning? -- Jayme Orians, 09:21:03 05/02/07 Wed [1]

I feel that encouraging students to perform solo works would help to increase their musicality because they don't rely on the rest of the band or other members in their section. The teacher could use scaffolding to get a better idea of how much the students would be able to do on their own.


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[> Re: Regurgitation or Learning? -- Amanda J, 12:29:03 05/05/07 Sat [1]

I think that teachers should allow students to read through pieces in lessons and try to encourage students to fidn their mistakes, and only play what is on the page if the student can't figure it out after trying all of his or her options. This allows the student to develop their error detection, and also allows them understand what they are playing. I wish that someone would have done that with me!


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[> Re: Regurgitation or Learning? -- Amanda J, 12:35:49 05/05/07 Sat [1]

I think that teachers should have their students read through a piece, and when they encounter areas that they don't know, have them count or clap through it. The teacher shouldn't play what is on the page unless they absolutely have to. This helps a students error detection, and also helps them understand what they are playing


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