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Date Posted: 20:20:31 04/04/05 Mon
Author: Lindsay
Subject: Re: Just Need the Credit
In reply to: Dr. O. 's message, "Re: Just Need the Credit" on 11:18:50 04/04/05 Mon

I think that another possible problem is intimidation of the teacher in these situations, especially newer teachers who aren't as experienced in classroom management and control. I think we can get scared of in-class confrontations with students and would prefer to ignore the situation rather than try to deal with it and have it blow up in our faces in front of other students.

I think that, like Dr. O suggested, dealing with it outside of class is the best bet. Even if the student gets out of control, it is out of the eyes and ears of their peers, which will probably deflate much of the student's attitude anyway. If there is still a conflict, then perhaps the student should not be in the class. I knew a fair number of high school kids who transferred classes because they couldn't get along with the teacher or the class in general. We as teachers have a right to deal with disruptive students the same way as any other teacher in the school, so it's probably a good thing to find that procedure (or precedent if there's no procedure) when starting a new job.

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[> [> Re: Just Need the Credit -- Gary, 09:42:44 04/23/05 Sat [1]

In my high school choir, one's grade was based entirely on their participation and effort that they put forth. Even if they weren't a great singer, if they learned their part, didn't disrupt others, and are willing to participate with everyone else, they would recieve a good grade. Those who did not participate were given poor grades, and this ended up being a great motivator; we didn't have a single person who refused to participate.

Of course, this requires a teacher who is ready and willing to be tough on students, which many teachers have a problem with. All too often, a system like this will be implemented but never executed, because the teacher is afraid of giving a student a poor grade. If that is the case, my first recommendation is to "get over it", but if that is not an option, and it never is that easy, any of Dr. O's other suggestions would work well, I think.


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