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Date Posted: 08:30:23 01/04/08 Fri Did the Vatican create Islam? http://www.scribd.com/doc/222227/How-the-Vatican-created-Islam While outwardly promoting Christianity, is there an antichrist wolf in sheep's clothing in the elections?? See the "Islamists Urge Caliphate Revival" article below... What "CHANGE" is REALLY being promoted? "And when they shall say peace, peace, sudden destruction shall come upon them." 5 "seemingly" unrelated articles but are they unrelated? Islamists Urge Caliphate Revival In Indonesia, tens of thousands of Muslims gathered over the weekend to call for a caliphate or single Islamic government. That would unite all Muslims worldwide and impose Islamic law—sharia. The conference was sponsored by an international radical group that has become widely popular in Indonesia. The group is banned in some other countries for allegedly supporting violence, but conference sponsors said they support the establishment of a caliphate through peaceful means. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/.../headlines.html ------------------------------------------ Through peaceful means? Like becoming the LEADER of a country? ---------------------------------------- Dutch bishop: Call God 'Allah' to ease relations Roman Catholic leader stokes already heated debate on religion http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20279326/?GT1=10252 Updated: 10:29 a.m. CT Aug 15, 2007 AMSTERDAM - A Roman Catholic Bishop in the Netherlands has proposed people of all faiths refer to God as Allah to foster understanding, stoking an already heated debate on religious tolerance in a country with one million Muslims. Bishop Tiny Muskens, from the southern diocese of Breda, told Dutch television on Monday that God did not mind what he was named and that in Indonesia, where Muskens spent eight years, priests used the word "Allah" while celebrating Mass. "Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? ... What does God care what we call him? It is our problem." A survey in the Netherlands' biggest-selling newspaper De Telegraaf on Wednesday found 92 percent of the more than 4,000 people polled disagreed with the bishop's view, which also drew ridicule. "Sure. Lets call God Allah. Lets then call a church a mosque and pray five times a day. Ramadan sounds like fun," Welmoet Koppenhol wrote in a letter to the newspaper. Gerrit de Fijter, chairman of the Protestant Church in the Netherlands, told the paper he welcomed any attempt to "create more dialogue", but added: "Calling God 'Allah' does no justice to Western identity. I see no benefit in it." A spokesman from the union of Moroccan mosques in Amsterdam said Muslims had not asked for such a gesture. Religious tensions on the rise Signs of tension had already surfaced in the last two weeks after the head of a committee for former Muslims was attacked and populist anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders called for the Koran to be banned. Bishop Muskens, who will shortly retire, has raised eyebrows in the past with suggestions that those who are hungry may steal bread and that condoms should be permissible in the fight against HIV and AIDS. Some Dutch Muslims welcomed his comments as a valuable gesture of support coming just days after Wilders branded the Quran a "fascist book" in the vein of Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" which legitimizes violence. Wilders, whose new party won nine seats out of the 150 in parliament in last November's elections, is well known for his firebrand remarks on Islam. He said an attack by two Moroccans and a Somali on the head of a Dutch group for "ex-Muslims" had spurred him to write. Issues of immigration and integration had faded from the Dutch political agenda over the last year, after a period of unprecedented social tension sparked by the 2004 murder of Theo Van Gogh, a filmmaker critical of Islam, by a Muslim militant. -------------------------------------------------------- Aug 18, 2007 4:18 pm US/Mountain http://kutv.com/national/local_story_230182042.html Father Wants Son's Name Kept Off 9/11 Memorial PITTSBURGH - The father of a man killed when hijacked Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001, wants his son's name withheld from a victims memorial because of renewed concerns that its design is centered around Islamic symbolism. Tom Burnett Sr. served on a jury that picked the winning design, originally named ``Crescent of Embrace,'' and said the request was ``something I'd rather not do, but I can't get anyone to listen.'' Burnett's son, Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, died along with 39 other passengers and crew when Flight 93 was hijacked and crashed into a field near Shanksville, Pa., while flying to San Francisco from Newark, N.J. An investigation concluded the hijackers crashed when passengers rushed the cockpit and tried to regain control of the aircraft. Nearly two years ago, designer Paul Murdoch changed the memorial's planned shape to a nearly full circle in response to critics who said the original crescent shape honored the Muslim extremists who carried out the attacks. The crescent is a Muslim symbol. Burnett, of Northfield, Minn., said he is looking for is a ``thorough, honest investigation'' of the design and the elements discussed by Alec Rawls, a conservative blogger from Palo Alto, Calif. Burnett said many of his concerns were based on Rawls' theories. Rawls says the planned memorial faces toward Mecca, Islam's holiest city, and contends that a planned 93-foot tower with wind chimes would act as an Islamic sundial. Joanne Hanley, superintendent of the Flight 93 National Memorial, said, Rawls ``bases all of his conclusions on faulty assumptions.'' (© 2007 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. ) ------------------------------------------------ What destruction came upon the CRESCENT CITY? KATRINA! ---------------------------------------------- http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=6937987 SHREVEPORT, LA Homeland Security Enlists Clergy to Quell Public Unrest if Martial Law Ever Declared Aug 15, 2007 06:07 PM CDT Could martial law ever become a reality in America? Some fear any nuclear, biological or chemical attack on U.S. soil might trigger just that. KSLA News 12 has discovered that the clergy would help the government with potentially their biggest problem: Us. Charleton Heston's now-famous speech before the National Rifle Association at a convention back in 2000 will forever be remembered as a stirring moment for all 2nd Amendment advocates. At the end of his remarks, Heston held up his antique rifle and told the crowd in his Moses-like voice, "over my cold, dead hands." While Heston, then serving as the NRA President, made those remarks in response to calls for more gun control laws at the time, those words live on. Heston's declaration captured a truly American value: An over-arching desire to protect our freedoms. But gun confiscation is exactly what happened during the state of emergency following Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, along with forced relocation. U.S. Troops also arrived, something far easier to do now, thanks to last year's elimination of the 1878 Posse Comitatus act, which had forbid regular U.S. Army troops from policing on American soil. If martial law were enacted here at home, like depicted in the movie "The Siege", easing public fears and quelling dissent would be critical. And that's exactly what the 'Clergy Response Team' helped accomplish in the wake of Katrina. Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo Sheriff's Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team's mission, "the primary thing that we say to anybody is, 'let's cooperate and get this thing over with and then we'll settle the differences once the crisis is over.'" Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. "In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they're helping to diffuse that situation," assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness. For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville elaborated, "because the government's established by the Lord, you know. And, that's what we believe in the Christian faith. That's what's stated in the scripture." Civil rights advocates believe the amount of public cooperation during such a time of unrest may ultimately depend on how long they expect a suspension of rights might last. --------------------------------------------- Security Dilemma for Churches Reported by: Erin Israel Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 @07:33am CST http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=10565 With this week's church shooting in Neosho, religious leaders across the country may be asking how they can keep their congregations safe. A local man literally wrote the book on church security. He says there are special challenges to securing a place of worship because church doors are traditionally open to anyone. Keeping those doors open to all, except those who would do harm, is the dilemma. "It's unbelievable that that could happen," says Bob Cirtin, about Sunday's shootings at the First Congregational Church in Neosho. But these days, says Cirtin, no place is sacred. "For a pastor or church leaders to say it can never happen in my church, well, it can happen in their church, and it might happen in their church; the question is are they prepared." Cirtin wrote the book on church safety and security, which has a chapter dedicated to dealing with intruders. He says members and leaders at the first congregation church in Neosho handled their circumstances the best they could. "I don't think there's anything they could have done differently." He says someone in the church called 9-1-1 immediately, which got police and paramedics to the scene for help. Cirtin also says following instructions from an armed intruder can reduce violence. But despite most church's open door policies, he does recommend preventative steps, like forming a security team. "People who are just trained to be aware of any unusually activity, any unusual people, to where they can pay attention and maybe see a potential problem with somebody there." He also recommends a written security plan, where each staff member knows their role... Like calling 9-1-1 and evacuation. Cirtin also says visible security cameras can help deter would-be criminals. But security measures aren't meant to keep people from going to church. Cirtin says feeling safe at church should give congregants a good feeling - almost as good as the real reason they're there. Cirtin says for smaller churches, cost can be a factor. But he says forming security teams and making a plan cost nothing -and can wind up saving everything. ------------------------------------------------- Would those church security cameras eventually be used to ensure attendees worship 'allah' ?? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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