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Date Posted: 05:36:05 10/20/04 Wed
Author: doreen peri
Author Host/IP: 172.149.212.10
Subject: That wasn't my post above.
In reply to: Max Bacon 's message, "you were warned" on 22:08:18 10/19/04 Tue

It appears you think you were posting to me.

That wasn't my post above....

But I do thank you very much for your sentiments regarding my exclusion.

I truly did give a lot of myself and my time and my heart to that community.

Oh well. Time to move on.

I posted anonymously yesterday saying that if someone has a website where they want to pick and choose participants, then it shouldn't be a public website, it should be a private invitation-only project.

I stand by that.






>The website in question has been censoring and banning
>people for years. That the controls have increased
>seems mostly to be due to the fact that, by the
>owner's admission, it is now being run as a business
>concern.
>
>I'm surprized that you and the other person were asked
>not to post ... have you seen the quality of some of
>the submissions accepted there? (Also, have you told
>us the whole story behind your banishment?)
>
>Myself, I just will not accept their terms of service;
>I'm not handing over any of my work, along with my
>right to edit it and say where it is used, to anybody.
>
>The owner presents himself as being everybody's buddy,
>as a laid back guy who just digs the underground lit
>scene and wants to help out artists. Seems to me that
>all that is left of his community are a few buddies
>and a handful of sycophants.
>
>I really do feel for people like yourself who gave so
>much to that site over so many years and are now,
>quite suddenly, dismissed as being a nuisance or
>unhelpful.
>
>They don't want a "worldwide conversation". They want
>a conversation that reflects their own narrow
>conception of how literature should represent the
>world. e.g no profanity, unpleasantness or dissent.
>
>
>
>
>>And aren't we all DIFFERENT? Don't we ALL have
>>different opinions, different ideas, different ways of
>>expressing ourselves?
>>
>>I can understand ANGER. I have gotten angry plenty of
>>times, myself. I've shut people out of my life
>>deliberately because I was SO ANGRY that I didn't
>>think I could ever forgive or speak to those people
>>again. I have never, however, deprived anyone of the
>>right to express themselves appropriately, because of
>>my personal differences with that person.
>>
>>Someone wrote some very sarcastic and cutting remarks
>>on this forum today, relating to how others reacted to
>>a person's "high school drama" and so on. "The Troll"
>>is certainly entitled to his opinion about anyone. But
>>he missed the point. Rules and guidelines have been
>>specifically outlined for a certain website. Several
>>people who have valuable and articulate opinions have
>>agreed to comply with those rules and contribute to
>>the website.
>>
>>Today, they were asked to leave the website ALONE.
>>Why? It wasn't because they had broken the rules, it
>>was because the owner of that website has decided to
>>choose that method of expressing HIS PERSONAL
>>PREJUDICE AND DISLIKE.
>>
>>I really don't care what started it, or IF the people
>>he is excluding offended HIM in any way. I care that
>>this person is acting like a petty tyrant --a Hitler
>>in his own tiny Germany.
>>
>>What makes it worse is that this particular individual
>>has openly expressed his anguish at personal
>>experience of prejudice and exclusion because of his
>>race and cultural differences. Apparently, he doesn't
>>know ENOUGH about unfair exclusion, because he is
>>doing it, himself.
>>
>>He needs to put his personal differences aside. He
>>needs to be big enough to admit he is not justified in
>>excluding these two people from his website JUST
>>because he doesn't like them. Feel free to dislike
>>anyone you want. Feel free to go and tell someone else
>>you don't want to talk to them. That is your
>>privilege. But when you set up a public website,
>>complete with specific rules, and others agree to
>>follow those rules,you have NO right, in a logical
>>world, to shut them out.
>>
>>This is a clear example of prejudice and
>>discrimination based on personal animosity. I am
>>disgusted with the person who'd decided to enforce it.
>>His website is no better than he is and therefore I
>>refuse to contribute to it. Everyone has a right to
>>self-espression, and when you are the one setting up
>>the rules, you have no right to exclude those who obey
>>them.
>>
>>Shame on you. You know who you are. What you have done
>>is no better than what the Nazi officers did when they
>>cut off the locks of the Hasids in the streets of
>>Europe. You have no right to censor ANYONE because of
>>your personal prejudice. You betray everything you
>>pretend to stand for. I disown you. You have have
>>forgotten. You are intolerant.

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