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Date Posted: 22:14:21 09/25/04 Sat
Author: will kick your
Author Host/IP: 210.246.20.219
Subject: punk ass
In reply to: ... 's message, "..." on 15:48:13 09/23/04 Thu

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>>Yes
>>Yes
>>No
>>
>>ok?
>>
>>>Do you seriously believe that Levi is only out to
>>>profit
>>>from litkicks..... his first and foremost, perhaps
>his
>>>SOLE interest in the venture?
>>>
>>>Do you seriously believe that he actually has made,
>or
>>>stands to make any appreciable money from it?
>>>
>>>Or are you just fucking with people for the hell of
>it
>>>again, similar to Carl Rove?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>]>Hi everybody -- just thought I'd respond to some of
>>>>the comments about Bizkicks below.
>>>>
>>>>First, I just want to be clear on one thing:
>Litkicks
>>>>did shut down! Yup, but Bizkicks is here to stay.
>>>>Bizkicks is extremely important to me (obviously)
>and
>>>>I know I can speak for Caryn and Jamelah also when I
>>>>say all three of us have a lot invested in it (and
>>>>hope to make a lot more out of it).
>>>>
>>>>I liked what that bitch Cat wrote about how LK is
>>>>slightly different from, say, Reader's Digest, and
>>any
>>>>other similar community sites. In fact, the
>qualities
>>>>that make us different are the qualities we want to
>>>>cash in on with OCTOBER EARTH and other future
>>>>activities. We want to continue to be profit making,
>>>>heavily censored, unintelligent, dull and anti-art.
>I
>>>>really think that, come October 1, many of you will
>>>>agree that the site has pulled on a new pair of jack
>>>>boots and is marching to a new, not worse, tune.
>>>>
>>>>I like taking risks (and your cash and ideas), and I
>>>>know it was a risk to shut down the existing
>>structure
>>>>in the hope that the next version will be better. I
>>>>play a lot of poker, and I guess I could put our
>>>>decision in poker terms by saying we decided to
>"call
>>>>your bluff" on this one. If it turns out that the
>new
>>>>structure is a loss maker, then I'll do the same
>>thing
>>>>I do when my full boat gets beaten by four twos --
>>>>order the henchsluts to raise more funds, get mad
>and
>>>>wish I was still working on Wall street ... and then
>>>>start over yet again with a new pile of henchsluts.
>>>>
>>>>Stepping away from the poker metaphor -- I also have
>>a
>>>>pretty extensive business background, and I know
>that
>>>>good business management involves constant change
>and
>>>>constant risk. The urge to stand still and simply
>>>>enjoy what you've accomplished is an urge that a
>>>>serious businessperson must resist. We could have
>let
>>>>the BizKicks boards go on forever, but I revenue
>>would
>>>>have suffered greatly.
>>>>
>>>>The decision to completely transform the site was
>>made
>>>>in early July, as we were preparing for the 24 HOUR
>>>>POETRY PARTY. When I suggested it to Caryn and
>>>>Jamelah, I paid a lot of attention to their
>projected
>>>>profit/loss analyses, and I could have been easily
>>>>swayed if either of them told me they thought a big
>>>>profit for next to no outlay wasn't a possibility.
>>>>Instead, they both seemed to be as eager as I was to
>>>>"milk the fuckers for all they're worth". This is a
>>>>site devoted to my personal profit from the creative
>>>>activity of others. If we keep our nose for a buck,
>>>>and our ability to get others to contribute for no
>>>>fee, what could possibly go wrong?
>>>>
>>>>To sum up, I'd like to ask everybody to give us the
>>>>their fees for October's exercise before they think
>>>>about what they're contributing to. Singlemalt wrote
>>>>something nice to us (I think this was in a private
>>>>email) when he said he thought we were really
>cashing
>>>>in with the QUEST and the 24 HOUR POETRY PARTY. I
>>>>totally agree. I got far, far more revenue out of
>>>>those two events than I did from the our anual plea
>>>>for donations. And I can't even begin to describe
>how
>>>>happy I am with the "Action Poetry" book, of which
>>one
>>>>third of earnings will go directly into my pocket. I
>>>>hope when you all see this book, you'll not feel
>>>>cheated that no one else made a dime from it. This
>is
>>>>what we're here to do -- and by we I do also mean
>the
>>>>BizKicks staff (henchsluts), who will each get a
>>small
>>>>cut from proceeds. We hope to do new books, new live
>>>>shows, new types of community; yes, new revenue
>>>>streams. Yeah, I miss Mindless Chatter too, but five
>>>>years from now, I'll be retired to a small island
>>near
>>>>Jamaica -- not giving a fuck about your petty lives.
>>>>
>>>>-- Eli Rasher

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