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Date Posted: 06:44:34 10/23/05 Sun
Author: H - 30 Aug 2005
Subject: Re: Babaji Truth or Myth?
In reply to: ketch - 29 Aug 2005 's message, "Re: Babaji Truth or Myth?" on 06:42:11 10/23/05 Sun

Suffering was his gospel. After reading hundreds of his letters and notebook entries it took me actually weeks to recover from the book.

I had never heard the reports of his wounds healing after death before.

The book was "Padre Pio, transparent de Dieu" (800 pages) by Father (Jean) Derobert, which I have in translation; I do not know whether there is any edition in English. The editors are Pio loyalists who knew him personally, but they mention and discuss the fraud allegations. He did not really have trouble with any of the Popes, but rather with middle-rank functionaries, as well as some malevolent nobodies and fanatical debunkers. I think Therese Neumann had experienced similar trouble, and even today many people consider her to have been a fraud.

One of his slanderers allegedly fell ill and died within days when he had spoken bad of him just at a time when Pio was in one of his ecstasies. Pio claimed to be innocent and unconscious about it and remarked that the man must have boomeranged himself with his hatred. That "devil" who used to haunt Pio finally admitted defeat but told him that in future "we will damage your work wherever we can" or something like this. Pio was building a modern hospital near his cloister and was active in several social projects and experienced a lot of troubles in connection with that.

In the book his miracles are intentionally mentioned only in passing, but even without them he would stand out as an extraordinary and most bizarre character. The suffering he took on himself must have been excruciating. And he couldn't get enough of it and always asked for more. He was a devotee of Virgin Mary and St. Francis rather than of Christ. His ultimate aim was to be the "sacrificial lamb" for as much sin as possible committed by others.

Once a man who was deep into esoteric and mystical stuff and Eastern lore went to him and came out enthusiastically reporting that Pio was able to grasp all the meaning of the foreign symbols and philosophies that he confronted him with.

There are many stories. He was one of the most unusual men I have ever heard of. On the photos he looks like a simple man.

It was claimed he had liasons with women in his cell.

They would have had a difficult time. There were loud explosions (even bending the iron bars at his window), blazing lights (that could be seen from outside at far distance) and other phenomena in his cell at night. At times his body temperature rose to such degrees that the thermometer would explode too. Pio claimed that he would be fighting with the devil at night and if other people would have been present then they might have dropped dead due to horror. He was sweating so much that in some nights his shirt had to be changed a dozen times. He used to be so exhausted then that he needed help to change clothes. But some hours later, at daytime, he was joking and in a jolly mood, seeking company with children etc.

To be honest, on many of his photographs he DOES look disturbed, almost as if deranged.

In his old age he had grown fat although eating less and less. His diet consisted of half an apple a day or so.

The center of his existence was to say Mass which was of utmost importance to him. He got a special permission to extend the duration of the ceremony. He would be so immersed in concentration that sometimes Mass took four to six hours - in fact in his early years before he became popular people felt bored by this and when he had finished they had already left. He was deeply identifying with the symbolic functions that are part of Mass, especially the transformation of bread and wine. He was so ecstatic about this that at times he had to be supported by servers. You can see it on some photos, and also on film.

He also seems to have several instances of bilocation attributed to him.

Yes, even trilocation. The first time I ever heard about Pio was from a book about paranormal phenomena. He appeared to a person on a ship near the coast of South America I believe.

H

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