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Date Posted: 13:39:04 12/19/04 Sun
Author: H - 15 Dec 2004
Subject: Re: Ramalinga
In reply to: m - 15 Dec 2004 's message, "Re: Ramalinga" on 13:37:36 12/19/04 Sun


I am hoping you will understand fully from your own experience that you are prior to all of these myths, planes, experiences and postitions.

Many people suddenly realize that 'they' simply exist, prior to all self-expression, formation or duality. As you say it can happen while walking on the street. Some bring it about with Kriyas, shakti or other means, to others it happens spontaneously; sometimes even to people who have no inclination towards yoga or spiritual life. It is a shift in mental perception.

For some of those yogis that I like to quote the state of pure awareness was the first step out of the normal consciousness into something different - or rather out of a separative consciousness into one perceived as a natural state. All 'higher planes' are based on the constant awareness of the same infinite, formless Absolute. Mind itself is a plane; Shibendu says it is a subtle body actually.

No-mind is the sense of the Absolute within mind, or seen from the level of (thought-)mind. An indication for this is the frequent use of tautologies and paradoxes by those who say they have attained it. - Language is not mental in its origin, but when it makes use of reasoning it becomes so.

The question is not this, but how the Absolute is perceived or manifests in oneself. - To all appearances the vital thing is to move the consciousness beyond a mental understanding, beyond the gospel of nothingness. Reportedly this is extremely difficult. It is the "final plunge" of Nirvikalpa Samadhi where the body-idea is ultimately transcended. Afterwards to go on with a mundane life is out of the question.

"O Supreme Divine, Thou art manifest blissfully in the seventh level removing the possibilities of relapse or fall."

-- Swami Ramalinga

H

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