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Subject: ARE YOU REALLY A CHRISTIAN?

Author:
Pahu

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Date Posted: 15:27:27 09/13/07 Thu

ARE YOU REALLY A CHRISTIAN?

� Not every one who says to Jesus, �Lord, Lord,� shall enter the kingdom of heaven; but those who do the will of His Father in heaven. Many will say to Him, �Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name and in your name cast out devils and in your name done many wonderful works?� And then He will profess to them, �I never knew you: depart from me, you who practice lawlessness. (Mt. 7:21-23).

� People honor Jesus with their lips, but their hearts are far from Him (Mk. 7:6).

� They worship Him in vain, teaching for doctrine men�s rules (Mk. 7:7).

� And exchanging His Ten Commandment Law for men�s traditions (Mk. 7:8).

� Resisting sound doctrine to suit their own desires, they gather to themselves many teachers who will say what their itching ears want to hear (2 Tim. 4:3).

� Turning their ears away from the truth, they embrace myths (2 Tim. 4:4).

� �And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them� (Rom. 1:28-30).

� They have a form of godliness, but deny its power, and we should have nothing to do with them (2 Tim. 3:5).

� They are blind guides, and when the blind lead the blind, they all fall into the pit (Mt. 15:14).

� For there is a way that seems right but ends in death (Pr. 14:12; 16:25).

� And nearly everyone is going that way (Mt. 7:13).

� For the whole world is deceived (Rev. 12:9).

� Except the elect (Mt. 24:24).

� But those who would enter eternal life must obey all ten of His Commandments (Mt. 19:17).

� For it we disobey just one Commandment, we are lawbreakers and therefore sinners (Jas. 2:10).

� For sin is the transgression of His Ten Commandment Law (1 Jhn. 3:4).

� And the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord as well as our Savior (Rom. 6:23).

� For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life (Jhn. 3:16).

� And Christ is the resurrection and the life, and everyone who believes in Him will receive everlasting life (Jhn. 11:25).

� If they obey Him (Jhn. 3:36 NASB).

� For if we will repent (and be baptized) in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins, His Heavenly Father will forgive us and give us the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38).

� And unless we have the Spirit of Christ, we do not belong to Him�and we are not Christians (Rom. 8:9).

� And therefore we remain unredeemed sinners�and lost (Rom. 3:23).

� We must repent or perish (Lk. 13:3,5).

� And God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should repent (2 Pet. 3:9).

� And every Christian does repent continually for the forgiveness of his sins, in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord as well as our Savior (1 Jhn. 1:9).

� And obeys all ten of His Commandments, and remains faithful to Him (Rev. 12:17; 14:12).

� Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, our Lord as well as our Savior (Rom. 8:1).

� If they obey Him (Heb. 5:9)

[From �Reincarnation in the Bible?� http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-12387-2]

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[> Subject: Re: ARE YOU REALLY A CHRISTIAN?

Author:
Frank
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Date Posted: 19:23:55 10/06/07 Sat

You are absolutely correct. Just about all so-called christians are not christians at all. REAL christianity is Calvinism as taught in the bible. If what the bible teaches were not christianity, what else could qualify? The bible teaches (correctly) that we have no free will and (insanely) that most humans are going to hell, among other things. Check it out for yourself, and if you're honest, you will find I'm telling the truth (both about free will and the bible). Very few so-called christians believe the bible. They are hypocrites. The rest are lunatics.

>

>ARE YOU REALLY A CHRISTIAN?
>

>� Not every one who says to Jesus, �Lord, Lord,� shall
>enter the kingdom of heaven; but those who do the will
>of His Father in heaven. Many will say to Him, �Lord,
>Lord, have we not prophesied in your name and in your
>name cast out devils and in your name done many
>wonderful works?� And then He will profess to them, �I
>never knew you: depart from me, you who practice
>lawlessness. (Mt. 7:21-23).
>
>� People honor Jesus with their lips, but their hearts
>are far from Him (Mk. 7:6).
>
>� They worship Him in vain, teaching for doctrine
>men�s rules (Mk. 7:7).
>
>� And exchanging His Ten Commandment Law for men�s
>traditions (Mk. 7:8).
>
>� Resisting sound doctrine to suit their own desires,
>they gather to themselves many teachers who will say
>what their itching ears want to hear (2 Tim. 4:3).
>
>� Turning their ears away from the truth, they embrace
>myths (2 Tim. 4:4).
>
>� �And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God
>any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to
>do those things which are not proper, being filled
>with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil;
>full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are
>gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent,
>arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to
>parents, without understanding, untrustworthy,
>unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the
>ordinance of God, that those who practice such things
>are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but
>also give hearty approval to those who practice them�
>(Rom. 1:28-30).
>
>� They have a form of godliness, but deny its power,
>and we should have nothing to do with them (2 Tim.
>3:5).
>
>� They are blind guides, and when the blind lead the
>blind, they all fall into the pit (Mt. 15:14).
>
>� For there is a way that seems right but ends in
>death (Pr. 14:12; 16:25).
>
>� And nearly everyone is going that way (Mt. 7:13).
>
>� For the whole world is deceived (Rev. 12:9).
>
>� Except the elect (Mt. 24:24).
>
>� But those who would enter eternal life must obey all
>ten of His Commandments (Mt. 19:17).
>
>� For it we disobey just one Commandment, we are
>lawbreakers and therefore sinners (Jas. 2:10).
>
>� For sin is the transgression of His Ten Commandment
>Law (1 Jhn. 3:4).
>
>� And the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God
>is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord as well
>as our Savior (Rom. 6:23).
>
>� For God so loved the world that He gave His only
>begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not
>perish but have everlasting life (Jhn. 3:16).
>
>� And Christ is the resurrection and the life, and
>everyone who believes in Him will receive everlasting
>life (Jhn. 11:25).
>
>� If they obey Him (Jhn. 3:36 NASB).
>
>� For if we will repent (and be baptized) in the name
>of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins, His
>Heavenly Father will forgive us and give us the gift
>of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38).
>
>� And unless we have the Spirit of Christ, we do not
>belong to Him�and we are not Christians (Rom. 8:9).
>
>� And therefore we remain unredeemed sinners�and lost
>(Rom. 3:23).
>
>� We must repent or perish (Lk. 13:3,5).
>
>� And God is not willing that any should perish, but
>that all should repent (2 Pet. 3:9).
>
>� And every Christian does repent continually for the
>forgiveness of his sins, in the name of Jesus Christ,
>our Lord as well as our Savior (1 Jhn. 1:9).
>
>� And obeys all ten of His Commandments, and remains
>faithful to Him (Rev. 12:17; 14:12).
>
>� Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those
>who are in Christ Jesus, our Lord as well as our
>Savior (Rom. 8:1).
>
>� If they obey Him (Heb. 5:9)
>
>[From �Reincarnation in the Bible?� >target=_blank
>href="http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.as
>p?&isbn=0-595-12387-2]">http://www.iuniverse.com/bookst
>ore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-12387-2]

[> Subject: Re: ARE YOU REALLY A CHRISTIAN?

Author:
Keith
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Date Posted: 09:17:23 10/10/07 Wed

You are half-correct Frank. The Bible teaches a form of dualism: concurrent free-will AND a soveriegn Creator who maintains absolute control over His creation and the outcome. The Bible also postulates that you and I are mere creatures with extremely limited comprehension. Nowhere in the Bible is there any attempt to indulge our wavering intellects. It is pretty clear that mankind can bareley agree on the basics of life, let alone get along with each other (the world is once again unravelling toward global war again)

We're free to ignore the obvious; that an intelligent designer has orchestrated an ingeinetly complex and harmonius life system that we find only on earth. We cannot create life, matter, or energy. The Bible explains say we are free to choose to worship or reject the Creator - IT IS OUR CHOICE.

To be fair, God gaifted us with an incredible document (the Bible) of which more than 25% is prophetic (predictive and testable). Additionally, the Bible is open to inspection based on historical and present evidences (Israel, Middle East, Big Bang). With over 25000 original NT manuscripts plus Dead Sea Scrolls, the Bible is the best documented and most studied, and most attacked in all of human history. More important, when obeyed, the Bible transforms people driven by their desires into more loving, and peaceful people. I see it with criminal prisoners and broken families everyday. And as the world watches Israel, Iran, and the middle east, we have propheices galor that are a playbook showing us that God is on control. Those who know and obey God have no need to fear the disasters and war (judgement) that are only a few years down the road for you and I.