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] Date Posted: 13:44:49 11/18/07 Sun Ray Prinzing is my hero. His writings can be Googled up and read online. Just type in Ray Prinzing. During my twelve year nervous breakdown caused by my inability to emotionally cope with the idea that God lets any creature suffer forever in hell, every morning, as I washed my family’s dishes, I would listen to one of Ray Prinzing’s many tapes. I have listened to 178 of them several times, and 23 of them many times In addition to these tapes, I always read every issue of his periodical GOSPEL ECHOES which he later renamed LETTERS OF TRUTH and gleaned many pages of his writings into my personal journal. Many people have a hero, someone in their life that made a contribution to their welfare so significant that it is far above the influence that anyone else has had. Ray Prinzing is that hero to me. For several years my 95 year old dad called me from his nursing home each evening. Each time he called I read a portion of my over four thousand page journal to him, and many of these readings are the gleanings that I wrote from Ray Prinzing’s writings and tapes. Many nights my dad fell asleep listening to one of Ray’s tapes. As I listened to Ray’s tapes during my nervous breakdown (1966-78) I gradually became more and more sure that I was going to recover. The contents of his tapes gave me the courage, in 1978, to take a public stand that I believe that the Bible teaches universal transformation, not endless suffering in hell, or even annihilation. (I’m 69) My panic attacks completely stopped. And now I spend most of my time offering people, in various ways, the information that helped me recover and helps me stayed recovered. The current issues and many back issues of UNSEARCHABLE RICHES magazine (started in 1909) from the CONCORDANT PUBLISHING CONCERN, and the GRACE AND TRUTH magazine from England have both been a great help to me. In addition to Ray Prinzing’s tapes and writings there is one particular book and one particular set of tapes that have been very influential in my life. The book is A.E. Knoch’s ALL IN ALL. In spite of the claim that there are contradictions in it, and in spite of “cult-buster” Don Hewey’s other attempts to discredit it, (arguments to which Richard Condon has responded), ALL IN ALL remains, in my opinion, one of the best of all the many books that I have read in support of the Bible teaching universal transformation. Don Hewey is a believer in the inspiration of the King James Version. When he accuses A.E. Knoch of "contradicting the Bible," in many cases what he really means is that A.E. Knoch contradicts the KJV, because the Concordant Translation does not rely on the Received Text from which the KJV was translated. Don Hewey therefore also attacks the RSV, the NIV, and other modern translations. For this reason much of what Don writes just doesn't make any sense. As far as Knoch calling the life that Lazarus will be raised to as it being eonian and unending, it is both. Lazarus will have unending life and that life will allow him to live through the oncoming eons which is called '"eonian life." But even if Don Hewey’s criticisms had any merit, they would still not detract from the fact that this book IRREFUTABLY proves that the Bible teaches universal salvation, not eternal torment, or even annihilation. Richard Condon’s detailed rebuttal of Don Hewey’s criticisms of ALL IN ALL can be read at http://gtft.org/Library/condon/QuestionsWithoutAnswers.htm The tapes that I referred to are a set of eight 90 minute cassettes called HUMAN CHOICE AND THE DEITY OF GOD by James Coram. I have listened to this set of tapes several dozens of times and consider my knowledge of their content to be priceless. Both ALL IN ALL and the HUMAN CHOICE tapes can be obtained online at http://www.concordant.org/ Ray Prinzing has now passed on, but his influence is so wide spread that he will not be forgotten on this earth for many, many years, if ever. And that is a very good thing! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: Rodger Tutt (http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:46:05 11/18/07 Sun GOOGLE UP RAY PRINZING TO READ SOME REALLY GREAT WRITINGS During my twelve year nervous breakdown caused by my inability to love a god who would allow anyone to suffer forever, I would listen to a Ray Prinzing tape while I washed the dishes of my family every day. Through the years that I repeatedly listened to these tapes I became more and more confident that that I was going to recover from my breakdown. In the opinion of Rodger Tutt of Toronto, Canada, the following are the best of all of Ray Prinzing’s taped sermons. I will list the very best of these best tapes on the next posting 6 CHRIST OUR MERCY SEAT 8 NO SUBSTITUTE 9 TRUST 16 SEE NO EVIL 29 THEREFORE CHOOSE LIFE 30 GOD’S WONDERFUL VENGEANCE 32 SUFFICIENT THE EVIL 35 CHANGING THY STRENGTH 36 AS KINGS AND PRIESTS 38 REVELATION TO REVELATION 42 THE TREE OF LIFE 48 KEPT IN PEACE 51 GOD’S RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS 55 ALLEGORY OF RACHEL 56 NONE SHALL BE LOST 59 REPENTANCE TOWARDS GOD 61 AND GOD REPENTED 63 THE END OF THE LORD 71 URGED ON BY FAITH 76 MINISTRY OF SALT 89 BLESSINGS REWARDED OR INHERITED 90 NO CONDEMNATION 95 NOT SOMEHOW BUT TRIUMPHANTLY 101 PASSING THROUGH 104 THE INTERPLAY OF GOOD AND EVIL 105 THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD 109 PLENTEOUS REDEMPTION 111 OF THE SAME LUMP 119 HELD TOGETHER BY LOVE 121 ESTABLISH THE SECOND 122 ESTABLISH THE SECOND, PART TWO 123 ESTABLISH THE SECOND, PART THREE 128 ADVANCE IN ADVERSITY 131 ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT 133 AFTER THE PRESSURES 134 THE POLISHED SHAFT 135 INTERNAL TRIUMPH 136 RECONCILED INTO HIMSELF 138 AT PEACE WITH YOUR CALLING 142 THE HIDDEN ONES 143 GOD’S GENTLENESS TO MAN 147 BEYOND DISCIPLINE 148 BEHOLDING HIM 149 DELIVERANCE 150 ENTER THY CHAMBERS 151 GOD OF THE VALLEY 152 GOD OF THE MOUNTAINS 153 IN QUIETNESS 154 IN CONFIDENCE 158 RENEWED INTO HIS MIND 160 EAT THE BOOK 161 HOLD FAST TO THE HEAD 162 THE SEVENTH MAN 164 SORROW TURNED INTO JOY 165 MAKE READY A PEOPLE 166 DESIRE OF ALL NATIONS 167 THE BIRTHRIGHT CHALLENGE 168 MY FATHER IS GREATER 169 HIS PARTICIPATING PRESENCE 170 CHANGES, TYRANNY OR BLESSING 171 TILL HE PLEASE 172 IN HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE 173 KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL 174 THE SWORD GUARDED WAY 175 THE HEAVENLY VISION 176 DEFEATING THE ACCUSERS 177 NEITHER TOIL NOR SPIN 178 THE LAW OF CIRCULARITY 180 HE THAT SHALL ENDURE 181 LIFT UP A STANDARD 183 MUCH MORE 186 WHEN GOD HIDES HIS FACE 187 FAITH VICTORIOUS 188 DIVINE CONFIRMATION 189 WAIT FOR WISDOM’S CHILDREN 190 GOD CHOSE OUR FATHERS 192 LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER 194 EARTHEN VESSEL SINKS 196 A VERY PRESENT HELP 197 A NEW COAT, YEAR BY YEAR 198 COME UP HITHER 199 UNDER HIS SHADOW 200 A HUSHED SECRET 201 EXPECTATION OF RIGHTEOUSNESS 202 RETURNING INTO GOD 203 PUT A DIFFERENCE 204 FROM EAST TO WEST 206 TIME OF YOUR SOJOURNING 207 HIS HAND IS STRETCHED OUT 208 WHAT SHALL I DO? 209 TURN AWAY UNGODLINESS 210 GIVE DILIGENCE 211 LIVING EPISTLES 215 THE LORD THY REARWARD 216 THE ANGER OF THE LORD 217 GOD APPOINTED HORIZONS 218 HOLD FAST TILL I COME 219 ACTIVELY RESTING 221 AN INNER REJOICING 222 BLESS ME INDEED 224 NO MORE ECCENTRIC 225 NOT A SPIRIT OF FEAR 226 FORGET NOT ALL HIS BENEFITS 227 AND SUDDENLY 228 THE HEAVENLY HOST ATTENDS 229 FIT FOR THE KINGDOM 230 JUDGEMENT UNTO VICTORY 231 GOD IS IN CONTROL 232 THE LORD OUR HELPER 233 OUR THREEFOLD JUDGEMENT 235 GOD COUNTED THE COST 236 THY LIFE FOR A PREY 237 THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS 238 FROM POVERTY TO RICHES 239 ABIDING IN GOD 240 PARTS OF HIS WAYS 241 CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST 242 MASTER OF MYSELF 243 ANOINTED EYE SIGHT 244 FAITH THAT OBTAINS 246 THE FURNACE FOR GOLD 247 RAISE UP THE FOUNDATION 248 SHALL PROSPER IN HIS HAND 250 INWARD REVELATION OF THE SON 251 KINGDOM LIFE TRANSFORMING 252 SO GROWS THE KINGDOM 253 AFTER YE HAVE SUFFERED 254 CHOSEN TO KNOW HIS WILL 255 HEALING THE BREACHES 256 OUR THREEFOLD RESURRECTION 257 A THORN FOR THE FLESH 258 THE MINISTRY OF WAITING 259 THERE IS A RIVER 267 HEARING, LEARNING, COMING 268 THE LORD ALWAYS BEFORE ME 269 HIS NAME SHALL BE CALLED 270 GOLD IN THE MAKING 271 MAKE TO LACK, READY TO FILL 273 ACQUAINTED WITH THE ALMIGHTY 274 EACH IN HIS OWN RANK 278 GOD’S UNFINISHED WORK 280 FULLY PERSUADED 285 CONTINUALLY WITH HIM 286 SURRENDERED TO HIS LORDSHIP 295 TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS 296 INIQUITY SHALL HAVE AN END 297 OVERFLOW WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS 298 THINGS BELONGING TO PEACE 301 HIS DESIRE IS TOWARD ME 302 REFINED AS SILVER 303 AND GOD REMEMBERED 304 LOOSE THE PRISONER 305 ASPECTS OF SPIRITUAL LIFE 306 GOD’S INDWELLING CONTROL 307 OUT OF HIM WE CAME 308 GRACE UPON GRACE 309 JUDGEMENT RESTS FOR A LIGHT 310 HIS MERCY ENDURETH FOREVER 312 THE SURE MERCIES OF DAVID 315 THE DEVIL DESTROYED 316 TOTAL AVAILABILITY 317 VIEWING THE THIRD DAY 326 KINGDOM AUTHORITY 339 GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE 340 NO MORE EXACTORS 342 WORSHIP CREATURE OR CREATOR 352 BUT GOD MUCH MORE 371 THE RICHES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS 374 REVELATION A POSITIVE BOOK 375 THE CITY ENLARGED 377 HIS TABERNACLE IS WITH MEN 379 GOD’S GREAT SECRET CHRIST 383 THE LAMB UNSEALS THE BOOK 385 FREEDOM OF THE GLORY 387 ESTABLISHED BY GRACE 386 YESTERDAY, TODAY, FOREVER 390 FIRE IN REDEMPTION’S PLAN 393 WE PREACH CHRIST 398 POSSESSED BY CHRIST 401 THE AIM OF INSTRUCTION 405 FATHER GAVE ME A COMMANDMENT 408 EAGLE VISION |
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Author: Rodger Tutt (http://greater-emmanuel.org/Hope4You/) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 13:47:39 11/18/07 Sun GOOGLE UP RAY PRINZING TO READ SOME REALLY GREAT WRITINGS Ray Prinzing’s very best, and his two extra good tapes. There are more “best” tapes but there is not enough room to get them all on one posting. 30 GOD’S WONDERFUL VENGEANCE 101 PASSING THROUGH 104 THE INTERPLAY OF GOOD AND EVIL 109 PLENTEOUS REDEMPTION 123 ESTABLISH THE SECOND, PART THREE 138 AT PEACE WITH YOUR CALLING 215 THE LORD THY REARWARD 216 THE ANGER OF THE LORD 217 GOD APPOINTED HORIZONS 226 FORGET NOT ALL HIS BENEFITS 230 JUDGEMENT UNTO VICTORY 232 THE LORD OUR HELPER 235 GOD COUNTED THE COST (extra good) 236 THY LIFE FOR A PREY 237 THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS 248 SHALL PROSPER IN HIS HAND 255 HEALING THE BREACHES 295 TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS 315 THE DEVIL DESTROYED 339 GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE 352 BUT GOD MUCH MORE 385 FREEDOM OF THE GLORY 387 ESTABLISHED BY GRACE (extra good) |
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