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] Date Posted: 00:06:54 07/20/04 Tue AN EX-ATHEIST'S GOSPEL Concepts and Scripture that can be understood outside of the faith. Original Sin: Man is born with a selfish nature. If two babies are in a playpen with one Gerber biscuit, the cage match that follows would put Jesse Ventura to shame. Psalm 14:1-3 & Psalm 53:1-3 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God..." ; there is no one who does good. Note how these two passages link non-belief to an assertion that no man does good. Could it be that the idea of God is dismissed because many believe that, if God and heaven are true, they are good enough to be admitted into heaven on their own merit? Genesis 18:32; Then Abraham said, "May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten righteous men can be found there?" God answered, "For the sake of ten, I will not destroy Sodom." If God couldn't find 10 righteous men in all of Sodom, what are the chances that He would find you as righteous? If your every thought could be made audible for all to hear, would those who heard your thoughts still consider you to be a good and righteous person? Conviction: Ezekiel 28: In the pride of your heart, you say, "I am a god..." But you are a man and not a god, though you think you are as wise as a god. You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings...All who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more. Do you remember your morality as a child? How black and white everything was and how idealistic you were in your standards? At what point did you begin breaking your own standard? At what point did you begin lowering the standard? Why? Jesus Really Died for Us: Isaiah 53: He was pierced for our transgressions. You Be The Judge: Luke 2:34-40; This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed. Mark 8:29; Who do you say I am? Our answer to this question says more about us than it does about Jesus. Jesus is presented to us as a perfect sinless and holy standard. If we judge Him to be only a man, we are in effect saying that, we, as men, are capable of reaching that standard. If we find fault with Jesus, how much more at fault are we? By judging Jesus to be one with God, as God, we admit that we are incapable of reaching the high standard; we are asking God to grade us on a curve, because we know that we have no hope of passing the test on our own merit. Salvation: John 16:27; For the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from God. John 3:3; I tell you the truth, no one can see the Kingdom of God unless he is born again. By dying, He taught us the meaning of self-sacrifice; He taught us how to die to ourselves. In rising, He allowed us to be born again, so that we could live for others and overcome our selfish nature. What is Truth?: How does a person know that the color red is real? Because they see it. How does a person know that God is real? Romans 10:17; Faith comes from hearing the Word of Christ. John 18:37; Everyone that is of the truth, heareth my voice. Mark 7:16; If any man has ears to hear, let him hear. 1Corinthians 2:14; The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. This reminds me of the Harley-Davidson motto: "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand." Why Am I Not Hearing The Truth?: The world makes people either too big to fit through the narrow gate, or too small and weak to push it open. I was of the former variety, having made myself too big-headed to see God's truth. These verses probably won't apply to anyone of the latter condition. 1Corinthians 1:19 I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate. 1Corinthians 3:18-19; Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a fool so that he may become wise...He catches the wise in their craftiness. An intelligent person can comprehend and disassemble meaning in the written word. But the message of salvation is written in the living word, which can't be torn down by the logic of men. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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Author: platothelapdog [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:47:34 07/29/04 Thu >An intelligent person can comprehend and disassemble >meaning in the written word. But the message of >salvation is written in the living word, which can't >be torn down by the logic of men. Thats not a very good reason to go back to God. In fact its probably the weakest argument I have seen a born-again throw out. Quotes of scripture are pretty lame. An atheist is not going to listen to this brain-wash babble and think " O my " I was wrong. Sorry. Its like telling an atheist if he goes to a church he will see the light. I have gone, and all i see is weekly brain washing and re-affirmation techniques to keep the sheep in beleif. Like Santa Claus , when you hear about him and everyone else tells you he is real you beleive. Well at some young age they break your heart and say he was made up. With God and Jesus they never do, just keep the myth going. |
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Author: MARS Attacks! [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 18:21:13 12/20/04 Mon NOW I KNOW BY THAT POST, THIS GUY WAS NEVER AN ATHEIST. NO ATHEIST WOULD EVER USE BIBLE VERSES TO PROVE THAT HE CHANGED HIS MIND...LOL..GOOD TRY LOSER...SEEMS CHRISTIANS ARE JUST FULL OF LYING SINS TODAY...LOL |
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