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Date Posted: 08:54:51pm 12/30/05 Fri,
Author: Stagophile
Subject: Re: Hoops Success & SAT Scores - Correlation or Causation?!?!
In reply to: Running Man 's message, "Re: Hoops Success & SAT Scores - Correlation or Causation?!?!" on 11:08:51am 12/30/05 Fri,

Similiar discussion going on over at the Holy Cross MB...and they are merely alarmed about a 48% acceptance rate...imagine their reaction if they were dealing with a 63% acceptance rate! Interesting to note their perception that Fairfield is closing the gap with them based on a review of Admissions Selectivity statistics from Princeton Review.

http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=32945&threadid=650061

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hoops Success & SAT Scores - Correlation or Causation?!?! -- Stagophile, 09:36:02pm 12/30/05 Fri, [1]

Hmmm...interesting quotes from a LA Times article discussing this subject...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-uscimpact30dec30,1,3420846.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Any discussion of this issue must begin with a 1984 football game in which Boston College quarterback Doug Flutie completed a Hail Mary pass to upset Miami. The touchdown was shown over and over on the news.

Applications to the university rose significantly the following year and "the Flutie factor" became a part of the higher education vernacular.

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In the case of Boston College, the rise in applications followed a more involved campaign to attract new students by, among other things, improving academic facilities and dorms. And the university experienced another spike � after the football team finished with a 4-7 record in 1998.

A 2000 survey by the Art & Science Group, a Baltimore consulting firm that specializes in higher education, suggested that only 10-15% of college-bound high school seniors were influenced by athletics.

Internships, student clubs and even intramural sports ranked higher among the priorities of the 500 students surveyed. Those who said they were swayed by a winning team also reported lower test scores and lower household incomes, the study found.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hoops Success & SAT Scores - Correlation or Causation?!?! -- JoeStag, 06:09:33pm 12/31/05 Sat, [1]

Stago,

I think that most people agree that Big succcess in Athletics will result in an increase in applications and donations. But Big success in anything will result in an increase in Applications. The key difference is that Athletics (especially Football and Basketball) are most publicized.

But where I am still unsure is that it increases GPA and SAT at faster rate than what Fairfield did from 1980 till now Big East inception. Under Fr. Kelly our academic repuitation really rose..... at least thats what I thought.

From visiting the Villanova Website they said they have been ranked #1 in the NE for over a decade. Providence claims to be #1 or #2 for the past 10 years. Fairfield claims to have been #2 , #3 or #4 (four times) in the last 14 years.

I would still like to see the GPA/SAT from 1980 till now for Vill, Prov, HC, Ford and us to see that focusing more on Athletics helps GPA/SAT rather than focusng on Academics.... which I think is what Fairfield did.

IMO, I think for Fairfield to get to the next level as a university, I think "Alumni Connectiveness" and "Alumni Spirit" is what needs to increase..... not academics. That is where we lack way behind a Vill or Prov, and thats where Athletics can solve that issue.

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