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Date Posted: 08:06:08pm 01/07/06 Sat,
Author: Alumina
Subject: Whats Happening to Han?

I was not able to be at today's game but I noticed in the stats that Han had 0 assists today. Thats only 2 assists for him in the last 3 games.
Many people, including myself, thought he looked like a great playmaker for the Stags.....but even for the year his assists/game stats are not impressive.
What is going on here. Is he going backwards? Can anyone shed some light on this?

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[> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- JoeStag, 07:24:51am 01/08/06 Sun, [1]

Han played only 13 minutes. Thats a reflection of him not playing well, but it was asked at the post game reception if Han was sick. And it was noted that he was not up to par.

IMO, he could also be hittng the freshman wall. He is not playing anything close to what he was. I its not like he is playing bad, its more like he is not doing much at all. I expect he will return to form.

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[> [> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- Alumina, 09:01:36am 01/08/06 Sun, [1]

I think part of the problem may be the Todd/Hann tandem.
Todd seems to perform best when he is controlling the ball.
When Hann looked best- early in the year, when he was controlling play- Todd was not playing well.

Have others observed this? Agree or disagree?

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[> [> [> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- JoeStag, 09:16:17am 01/08/06 Sun, [1]

Alumina,

Great point. I agree, that Todd/Han ballhandling control could be an issue. And that has to work itself out, they both need to move more without the ball. That is probably why MVS has got about 15-20 mpg at PG/2G. I think we need both Han and Todd to get minutes, so I don't think they cannot play together, they have to have better chemistry..... or Han moves to shooting guard since he is shooting wel from the arc.

However even when Han and Todd are not playing together, Han does not seem like the same player.

I think the bigger issue is Todd and Han playing better defense. OUr offesne was not theh problem yesterday.

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[> [> [> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- Menzies, 05:46:27pm 01/08/06 Sun, [1]

I think that is a good point. It rings true with me.

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[> [> Line Up change -- Rave, 01:54:03pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

I think everyone has noticed that Terrence does not fit in well with this group of players. With that in mind, I suggest the following change in the line up and rotation:
Starters: Han, MVS, Herbie, Max, and Mamadou
remaining rotation: Middleton, Bell, Terrence, Ogelsby
Terrence needs to be read the riot act. He is talented but doesn't look for the open man anywhere enough. You live and die as a team. His actions at the end of the Canisius game showed his lack of team play. The other 4 players should not have even come down court. Terrence must be reigned in and made to play team ball. If he doesn't, then he should be benched or dismissed if he becomes a morale problem. I love his talent, but we have too many other players with offensive skills for him to dominate the ball and the number of shots taken during a game.

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[> [> [> Re: Line Up change -- FINALLY, 02:27:35pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

AT LAST.....

SOMEONE WITH SOME COMMON SENSE!

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[> [> [> Re: Line Up change -- ghostman, 06:03:38pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

Disagree - I want the ball in Terrance Todd's hands in crucial situations. He is a scorer and our go-to guy. I think sometimes he is too tentative - teams go on big runs vs. FU because he doesn't shot enough. The go-to guy has to be selfish and take over games. TT has shown that he can do this.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Line Up change -- Red Rugger, 06:40:09pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

Disagree Rave. Outside of spurts of Mamadou & Middleton, TT was the only one who played with any intensity on Sat. True at the end of the game he went a little crazy, but at that point I think he felt he had to do it all by himself. I think Han and Herbie starting (this year)would not bode well for FFLD. FFLD's porous defense would get worse and the offense would also suffer. One aspect TT brings to the offense is he can create his own shot (I haven't seen this yet from Han or Herbie). Also, by putting TT on the bench (pre season all MAAC player) the disruption to the team would be immense. Just my thoughts. I think TOT may have to pull the reins in a little on TOT though.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Line Up change -- you have got to be joking me, 07:32:54pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

Terrance Todd only waits for the situations to where he can sometimes and sometimes not be in the spotlight, the hero...he outweighs his talent with is freshman display of leadership. I say get it out of terrance's hands unless you can say he is shooting well...he was the wrong guy to go to that night. Lets not forget whether TT can create his own shot, drive the lane or whatever...he shouldn't take the whole game to wait till the final 5 minutes to do so and if he is as great as everyone claims him to be he shouldn't be making the mistake of going 8-23 again. Come on...you can't sit there and say that LEADERS, SENIORS, TALENTED PLAYERS don't sit back and evaluate their own game and think...if my shots aren't going down let me do soemthing for my teammates for them to score and use their strengths?????? It isn't rocket science.

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[> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- Nashville Stag Fan, 04:19:38pm 01/08/06 Sun, [1]

I think a great deal of the problem with Han is he is not handling the ball enough to do the basic "point guard duties." This has something to do with the offense we are running, which demand that everyone handle and pass on almost every possession. In that regard, I do think its true that being in with Todd can hurt his play. However it did seem to work in the first few games. At the present time his game performance has to be judged on whether his shots are going in, since he has hardly tried to set anyone up in the last three contests. He is not making many turnovers, which is good. He has to get stronger and anticipate better on defense. The bottom line to me, however is he is in Freshman slump, and will eventually become a great player for Fairfield.

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[> [> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- ec, 02:35:12pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

I think he is under the weather not feeling well and had an off night. Don"t read to much into it. He will be fine in the next game.

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[> [> Han is fine -- JCM, 09:31:15pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]

I think Han will be fine. I couldn't agree more though on the points on Todd. TOT benched Todd at the end of one game because he was being such a ball hog. He single handledly lost the providence game with poor shooting including missing two lay-ups and taking some very ill advised shots near the end of the game.

We had Clark doing this several years ago and TOT ditched him. Terrance Todd is more balanced than Clark, and doesn't have the same bad attitude clark had but some of the problems are the same to a lessor degree. Todd is clearly is taking too many shots, and too many shots when he is not open. Perhaps he would be more open if he passed the ball more. Todd is the only starter shooting less than 40% from the floor.

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[> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- Nashville Stag Fan, 10:57:42am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]

Sure, as a scoring and senior leader Todd sometimes takes ill advised shots or fails to find the open man. However as the go to guy it is his job to at times take the high risk play, especially at points in the game when no one else is producing. I'm all for team play, but there are times (especially last Sat. when we needed baskets QUICKLEY), and he was the best option. Kind of like the quarterback throwing late interceptions trying to force the ball downfield in hopes of a miracle comeback. To me, TT should be given some credit for his willingness to put the game on his shoulders and accept whatever the result is. Let's not forget the plays he made at the end of the Northridge game, and the hoop in last minute of Siena contest to help us win!

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[> [> Re: Whats Happening to Han? -- JoeStag, 12:24:29pm 01/10/06 Tue, [1]

I kind of agree with Nashville here, but I also can see how he really went overboard shooting at the tail end of the Canisius game. I look at it as a mistake of over-aggression. Todd has the confidence in himself to take the team on his shoulders and make the big play, especially in crunch time. That type of confidence sometimes comes without thinking, just reacting.

IMO, Todd has to channel some his confidence into setting up others for their shot. His assists totals are below average for someone of his talent to drive to the hoop.

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