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Date Posted: 12:52:40pm 11/30/05 Wed,
Author: JoeStag
Subject: Re: Fordham & LaSalle-off the sMAAC Board
In reply to: FUAlum 's message, "Re: Fordham & LaSalle-off the sMAAC Board" on 12:12:52pm 11/30/05 Wed,

I agree that Fordham and Lasalle did not put money into facilites to get them to A-10 standards, and that has hurt them. But both Fordham and Lasalle did not jump directly from the MAAC to the A10..... Fordham went to the Patriot and Lasalle went to MCC (a mideast conference). Both moves were horrendous decisions and downgraded their programs, and I bet they lost a lot of fans and interest in the program. If they would have moved directly from the MAAC they would have had a much better chance of being a success.

It is going to take them a while for them to recover, as Drexel has moved up to Lasalle's level, and Manhattan, Iona and Hofstra are considered the same level as Fordham. It will take a while for them to regain their fans and interest from recruits like it should be in teh A-10.

It was a sad day when both schools left the MAAC. Both schools showed a lack of leadership by leaving. They could have been Leaders in the MAAC and help bring in a Hofstra and a Drexel. How would everyone would have liked a league like:

Fordham
HolyCross
Lasalle
Fairfield
Manhattan
Iona
St Peters
Hofstra
Drexel

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[> [> [> Re: Fordham & LaSalle-off the sMAAC Board -- Stagophile, 12:59:00pm 11/30/05 Wed, [1]

Hofstra and Drexel? No, it should have been Siena and St. Joseph's. The MAAC could have been an amazing league based on natural rivalry and geographic proximity. Lost opportunity!!!

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[> [> [> Re: Fordham & LaSalle-off the sMAAC Board -- SonofDoc, 01:55:25pm 11/30/05 Wed, [1]

I believe when LaSalle left the MAAC, the MCC still had Xavier and Dayton, as well as Butler, St. Louis, Evansville, and Notre Dame (non-Football and Basketball sports). It was a nifty conference at the time that must have upgraded LaSalle.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Fordham & LaSalle-off the sMAAC Board -- JoeStag, 03:00:06pm 11/30/05 Wed, [1]

As soon as Lasalle joined the MCC, Xavier left in one year. Dayton and St Louis, Evansville did not join.... Dayton backed out at the last minute. The league was left with Loyola(Chi), Detroit, Butler and some Wisconsin schools. Decent schools, but Philly fans and recruits had absolutely no interest playing those schools. And that really hurt them as Lasalle previously had a great recruiting base in the strong Philly HS's and they had a coach, Speedy Morris, who had strong Philly ties, but was probably weak outside of Philly. Bottom line is that Lasalle lost their Philly base and had no base outside Philly.

I used to be a Lasalle Season ticket holder and it got so bad I just gave up..... they played unwatchable basketball.

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[> [> [> 10+ years Though! -- StinkyCheese, 02:36:19pm 11/30/05 Wed, [1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Patriot League & MCC Conference switches ended TEN Years Ago!

Is it really possible that this is STILL the cause of their helplessness now? They should be on their third or fourth full recruiting class by now.

One of their biggest problems are the Hill & Derrick's recruits who only stay a year or two and transfer or drop out. So they are always rebuilding.

I think using the Patriot League excuse ten years later is not valid.

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