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Subject: Truthfully, I'm not...maybe that makes me unfit to weigh in on specifics


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m&m
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Date Posted: 16:32:14 09/13/03 Sat
In reply to: Candy 's message, "Then why are you watching?...TSJ (IMO) has put the MAN" on 12:15:04 09/13/03 Sat

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I haven't watched for over a year now, and I think the only thing that will bring me back is my Max's send-off, because I want to see JdP's goodbye to the character.

Maybe 'in theory' this really -should- only be a point of debate for those who are involved and invested and actively still viewers; I'm not sure. In that sense, I'm not really targeting the actor and the specifics of his take-over of the role...

I just answered originally the other night from a heart-jerk reaction to the principle of the thing. In the end, it's really hard to explain my feelings beyond that how I feel is my raw emotion reaction to it all.

I can feel a constant and standard *WTF* look on my face when I see anyone refer in the present to T&B, or just plain T, in reference to something that's not Todd Manning. That is not meant as an attack on those who are---it's working for you and you have every right to talk about it in those terms----I just can't wrap my mind around it.

I hear a strange take on that old philosophical question almost every time as I think about it/read the takes on it---If a Todd Manning speaks in a forest, but it's not Roger Howarth, is there a Todd around to hear? I guess that's how strongly my Principle Against the Recast particularly of this actor stands.

I feel like someone is asking me to say that apples and oranges are the same fruit.

I honestly don't think that I would see it differently if I was watching. It's like...this new incarnation has made Todd "too easy." I'm hearing the point of debate that says 'he's all these things that Roger Howarth wouldn't let him be'...I've read people say "look how easily he know does this..." and my heart and head just scream "so then how can that be Todd?" If for all the years he held the reigns to Todd, Roger Howarth didn't do 'point of debate A' easily, or agree to 'point of debate B' then...how is he being Todd that doesn't wipe a good portion of the slate and make a new Todd where the old Todd no longer exists, but...he still reads Todd?

I'm nervous about saying this because I don't want it to come out wrong, but to me, this is the same deal I had with Todd Manning of the Lord days (I know, mutual groan, we've all seen this one before.) This feels like it makes Todd much less 'complicated' much more...'easy.' It makes his relationships 'easy.' And that's good, if that's your character and his relationship at its best in your view...

But I found the Todd that I took to the most 'within the complicated' in all the things that 'weren't easy' and in those 'hardest struggles' and even the 'hard questions.' the strengths of my Todd are wiped away by what others see as the strengths of 'this version of Todd.' That feels like its in opposition to the place that the character is being taken in this new incarnation, by a new actor...and that's not going to read as Todd to me.

Then, it's taking Roger Howarth's acting out of Todd to boot just in the nature of 'actor switch' and granted, I had huge issues with *something* about Goof Todd, and what that was I have yet to put my finger on with solid conviction. His acting choices were very tied in to the character when he was at his best for me, though...so there lies that consideration in it all as well.

I don't know---when all is said and done, I feel as frustrated as a dog chasing its tail with this one because I feel like I can't put my viewpoint to the proper words.

Does any of the above make any sense, even if you totally disagree with me?

Nope, I'm soapless...my frustration has become fairly genre-wide, and I'm not if that will ever be made right enough for me to go back. My disillusionment with this is also, partly, tied into that general whole.

I'm still sorry to have dropped what was a life-long passion...I loved the genre from birth on through, but that's not enough to make me believe in it enough to try again right now.

In addition, soap watching feels like it will never be the same without sharing it with one very special Voice on the Couch. Talking aloud to myself grew old and sad quickly.

~m&m

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Ooops, important edit...m&m16:34:52 09/13/03 Sat
It's Really A Battle Between Whose Interpretation of Todd You LoveSkinTheKat - Soap Buff Uber Alles06:23:06 09/14/03 Sun



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