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Date Posted: 14:48:25 01/25/05 Tue
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: UBF issues and potential fallacies
In reply to: Joe 's message, "Re: UBF issues and potential fallacies" on 14:37:17 01/25/05 Tue

>I hate to comment in the off-topic but since "anything
>goes," my comment is that it's probably not a logical
>fallacy to assert that if you remain in UBF you will
>experience abuse for sure. It could be an
>*inaccuracy*, but I don't think it is. I think there
>is some degree of the usual UBF abuse and
>dysfunctionality and unhealthy elements in every UBF
>chapter; everyone gets abused since they're all in the
>UBF system. If their chapter is "not so bad," and they
>are perceived to be a "growing disciple," they will be
>called to go to Chicago or Seoul where things are
>quite different (more abusive) for "training."

Let me put it another way. If you went to any UBF chapter today and spent a couple of days or a week attending meetings and listening to sogams and messages and announcements, not even "behind closed doors," you would notice some of the abusive and unhealthy elements that we've all come to know and love.

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