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Subject: Re: Why is there no one want to work for STUDENT UNION?

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King Fai

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Date Posted: 20:44:55 09/02/04 Thu
In reply to: Ha Ming Yin 's message, "Re: Why is there no one want to work for STUDENT UNION?" on 16:24:22 09/02/04 Thu

Seems like I haven’t left any messages here for years, ha! Sorry for that. Reading the past few messages, I do have many thoughts in mind. And as an ex president, I do wanna put down how I think about the different aspects here. And may I just follow the comments of 六魂,.

1. 近年不少消息，如中六「拔尖」計劃超額收生，大學學位的減少等等，令同學意識到公開試成績的重要性，因而放棄參與課外活動。

You are absolutely right. As I mentioned in the F.6 Leadership Training Camp sharing session, what the universities in HK concern is mainly your academic results. No matter you are the president of SU, house captain or whatever, what they consider most is how many As you got in AL and CE. Let me give you an example of how hard it is to get enrolled into a good program:
HKU BBA (law) double degree program:
Seats provided: 50, this include
20 Early Admission Scheme students
10 other non-JUPAS students
20 JUPAS students (2As 1B or above would be considered)

不少師兄表示，自己因為沉迷參與課外活動而影響學業，後悔不已，奉勸師弟們不要步其後塵。

It depends actually on the one taking up the posts. Someone will fail in every subject and get a terrible exam result while someone can manage to strike a balance very well. If you think that you are a good time manager, then don’t hesitate to try. May I put down here that all the members of Victory (our team name during the SU election the year before) didn’t need to take re-exam at the end of F.6. It’s true that you need put to many of ur personal time into it, but it doesn’t mean that you won’t have time to study. Of cuz if you still use ur time to play…to fool around, you would fail for sure. It really really depends on you.

3.學校沒有鼓勵同學參與課外活動，令同學不投入參與，也影響了籌辦同學的熱誠。

I’m afraid that I can’t agree with this point. I remember that I was a shy little boy while I was in F.1 and F.2. But my form teachers and other advisors kept on encouraging me to try different posts…activities. So I worked, from a little Chinese subject monitor to a SU president. This is what everyone can do with no exceptions. F.6 pals, remember what was the message conveyed to you on the training camp? The message is more or less like, study hard and play hard. If you have the ability, pls devote more to ECA, cuz u can gain a lot from them.

I don’t understand why actually. People in other so-called famous schools (forgive my discriminatory comment) wanna stand up for those posts all the time while having no advices from teacher advisors. They might not really hold something good, but at least they stand up for the posts…….Be brave, my fellow Xaverians!

4.學會太多，一方面分散了資源，二方面令部份同學「被迫」籌辦學會活動，三方面令部份同學身兼多職。

It’s true that there are many clubs and societies in our school. The reason is simple enough to understand, to satisfy the different interests and demands of students. But may I say that there is nothing wrong to have many posts in hand at one time? Let me give an example here, I have a friend in St. Paul Convent, here is her posts in school in this new academic year:
1. Ranger's Chair (girl guide)
2. Chinese Society's Sec
3. Music Society's Vice
4. EPA's Vice

I’m not telling you to sign up the posts and do nothing, but I wanan say that its possible for one single person to handle man different things at one time. Besides, F.4 can also take a leading role in the student activities, right?

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Date Posted: 20:46:16 09/02/04 Thu

5.學生會和學會都有所謂的「傳統」，很多學會幹事傾向維持傳統，使學會活動變得沉悶。
Frankly speaking, the clubs and societies in our school don’t really have many traditions that you have to keep. The transition thing done every year isn’t that good! Ha~ So you might probably have to do everything from the beginning again when you take up your posts… I don’t dare to comment other clubs, but its like that for SU….improvements are taking place of cuz.

6.學生會給一些同學「保皇」的形象，或是讓人覺得是沒有實權、只能協助老師的「二打六」組織。
I agree with you actually! Ha!!! I can now speak freely what I thought as I have no posts now^^ As mentioned by Ha Ming Yin, the SU in our school is only a little kid of 4 years old. He is immature, dependent on his parents. He can’t make any decision which opposes the idea of his parents but sometimes his parents will give him some rooms to play. Ha~ I love this analog. I understand why people have such comments as its really like this! But I wanna point out that, how can you expect a little kid, of only four years old to make his decision independently? This little kid doesn’t even have his birth certificate (constitution), he can do nothing!!!!! A kid with no ID, poor…. >.

7.過往參選學生會的同學，常有「打官腔」的情況，令人反感。
You are right too!!! I was also like this when I was the president. Thinking back, the way I speak really make me disgust ga` heeee~ But really, you have to act in the way that you should be… I mean to act like a president. Its not easy to be middleman, you know. For public announcement, we really have to make it formal, of cuz I don’t mean those promotion of activities. I think the main reason that make u feel uncomfortable about those speeches is that you don’t really like our stance from our speeches….it seems like we are really like those politic people. I can give u a reason of why, it’s because we were “kids”!!!! remember that we are only 4 years old kid under the control of our parents? Of cuz, if the one is good enough, he should be presenting formal speeches in a casual way, but unfortunately that I couldn’t make it make you have such feeling….>.<”!

I remember that someone asked me if I were disappointed about my AL result…..that made be unable to enter the faculty/program I want. Of cuz the answer is yes. Then somebody asked me if I regret doing the SU president as it took so much of my time. And my answer is NO.

I don’t regret because I’ve gained more than I lost.
I don’t regret because I really did contribute a little in raising up the kid we called SU.
I don’t regret because I did something for my beloved school, SFXC.

If you can really manage your time well and has the ability to raise up this poor little child, pls take up the post. If you want only to have the name as a president and do nothing, pls, for the own sake of SFXC, don’t do it.

Finally, I just wanna leave a question to you.
How will a 4 year-old boy be like if he is neglected for 1 year? Will he forget everything we have done for the past days and nights? Do we have to teach him all the thing, from the beginning after 1year? Or worst of all, will he leave us…