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Date Posted: 22:40:12 07/26/07 Thu
Author: Tint
Subject: Re: Religion
In reply to: Jennn 's message, "Re: Religion" on 19:38:47 07/26/07 Thu

Wow. I went to the bar. I got drunk and I won 15 in pool and I sung karaoke and I saw the same bar hoes I see everywhere. I left early and I came home alone. To this.

Thank you Jennn. And Lynx and DD and Klutz et al. You too Jennn.

My mother doesn't understand and my ex wife doesn't understand but a gaggle of acroers (is that right? a gaggle? geese, acroers. whatever) can hit home. Thanks. I'm buzzed now so I'll go crash. Tomorrow. Tomorrow I'll begin to earn your support.


>Judaism and Buddhism for me, for now.
>
>I do have a lot of problem with the Bible (mostly New
>Testament stuff) because it's written by man.
>Supposedly it's divinly inspired, but how the hell do
>we know it is? I don't have a problem with stuff if it
>makes sense.
>
>The things that make sense to me are mostly in the Old
>Testament. Most notably the 10 commandments and
>Proverbs. The commandments (I'll leave out the ones
>that have to do with God and parents) are excellent
>advice for life: don't covet, don't kill, don't steal,
>don't lie (bear false witness), and don't commit
>adultery.
>
>Most important of all of them is coveting. If you
>don't "desire" you probably won't have to worry so
>much about the rest. If you desire material things you
>may become greedy which can lead to lying, stealing,
>or possibly killing. The same things with drugs and
>alcohol, if you desire them and obtain them it can
>lead to breaking the other commandments as well.
>
>You can summarize the commandments into a category of
>treating other people how you want to be treated which
>you can tie to the whole karma thing and Buddhism. I
>believe that if your intentions are pure, and you give
>your all to treat others how you want to be treated
>(including drunk driving - imagine how you would feel
>if someone you loved was killed by a drunk driver?
>Don't think you'd like it? Don't do it. Simple.), you
>can rise above bad karma and live a more peaceful life
>- even though bad things happen around you, they don't
>happen directly to you (not often). Perhaps when you
>find a peaceful life you might discover God or a
>higher power.
>
>Another thing that may help is educating yourself
>extensively about the effects of the things you have a
>problem with. Alcohol damages your liver. When your
>liver gets damaged the next stop is the brain. If you
>drink so much in one night that your liver can no
>longer filter the alcohol, again, the next stop is
>your brain and genitals I guess. Alcohol tends to make
>some people violent. Violence and ignorance are a bad
>mix. Keep drinking for several years and one day
>you'll probably land in the ICU with pancreatitis and
>ascites (your belly gets so huge you look pregnant -
>and your extremities are skinny... it's really gross),
>and the smell of cirrhosis is just awful. Not that
>you'd mind the smell, but if you have visitors they
>can smell it. Then you'll probably end up bleeding out
>of every orafice of your body, and there's nothing
>anyone can do to save you. While you're out, filled
>with morphine from all the pain you'll be in, your
>loved ones surround you crying. It's not a very
>pleasant way to die - I've seen it on more than one
>occasion, and I'll probably never drink again.
>
>Meth, that's another one to get educated on. Last I
>read up on it they found it causes brain damage. I'm
>sure you can look it up on google. Whether it's
>reversible or not I'm not sure. I do know people
>who've died from it. I know if you do it long enough
>you will end up with cardiac problems, dental
>problems, other internal damage. There was a story of
>a man who was 35 years old, but his organs were that
>of an 80 year old. He died of course.
>
>I don't know if education counts as a higher power,
>but I know it's made me rethink many things including
>alcohol and diet. As for organized religion, it won't
>work for you if you don't believe. If you can find a
>social network that does something other than
>drinking/drugs (and I don't recommend making friends
>with AA people since you never know when they'll fall
>off the wagon and bring you with them) that you can
>enjoy that may help a lot.
>
>You have to be really careful who you hang around with
>because you tend to become like the people you're
>around. If you hang out with druggies, you'll probably
>become one. If you hang out with morons, you'll
>probably become one of those, too.
>
>Anyway, sorry to ramble... I don't know if any of this
>will help, but I wish you the best in overcoming this
>obstacle. When you do overcome it you will be a much
>stronger person in the end :)

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