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Date Posted: 22:55:40 04/28/09 Tue
Author: Skin_Tight (loose as a goose!)
Subject: Re: MAIN THREAD Penis frenulum tying (ligation) information and indicative photos
In reply to: Skin_Tight 's message, "Re: MAIN THREAD Penis frenulum tying (ligation) information and indicative photos" on 22:52:06 04/28/09 Tue

>Just when I was ready to give up and break out the
>snippers, my tying process worked and the frenulum is
>now completely cut!
>
>I'm re-posting the complete story here. but you can
>skip to the end if you've already read it.
>
>
>CLICK ON THE PICTURES TO ENLARGE

>
>Video of the tying procedure (click on pic to play)

> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98819324/e67c2bac/fre
>n-tye1.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc142.4shared.com/img/98819324/e67c2bac/fre
>n-tye1.mpg" border="2">

>

>These are ‘before’ pictures of the shortened frenulum
>and the typical bent head that it causes:

> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98821396/6992c174/fre
>nulum_tying_bent_3-4.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc94.4shared.com/img/98821396/6992c174/fren
>ulum_tying_bent_3-4.jpg" border=“2”> rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98821401/237bf91b/fre
>nulum_tying_bent_head_side.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc94.4shared.com/img/98821401/237bf91b/fren
>ulum_tying_bent_head_side.jpg" border=“2”>

>Closeup of the frenulum:

> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98821405/24163d02/fre
>nulum_tying_frenulum_bot.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc94.4shared.com/img/98821405/24163d02/fren
>ulum_tying_frenulum_bot.jpg" border=“2”> rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98821388/9731dd32/fre
>nulum_tying_frenulum_side.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc94.4shared.com/img/98821388/9731dd32/fren
>ulum_tying_frenulum_side.jpg" border=“2”>

>Closeup of the frenulum

>Closeup showing location of the frenulum vein. (Color
>enhanced to show vein better):

> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98823715/95427a91/fre
>nulum_tying_artery_location.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc150.4shared.com/img/98823715/95427a91/fre
>nulum_tying_artery_location.jpg" border=“2”> rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/99067993/8ea0c0e8/fre
>nulum_tying_artery_enh-2.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc142.4shared.com/img/99067993/8ea0c0e8/fre
>nulum_tying_artery_enh-2.jpg" border=“2”>

>Here’s the knot just after tying:

> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98811807/84a2df9a/fre
>nulum_tying_knot_bot.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc152.4shared.com/img/98811807/84a2df9a/fre
>nulum_tying_knot_bot.jpg" border=“2”> rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/98811799/b9840ee9/fre
>nulum_tying_knot_side.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc152.4shared.com/img/98811799/b9840ee9/fre
>nulum_tying_knot_side.jpg" border=“2”>

>Day 3 progress. The knot appears to be tight but not a
>lot of reduction in the tissue:

> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/99067451/c4c37d9b/fre
>nulum_tying_Day3.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc151.4shared.com/img/99067451/c4c37d9b/fre
>nulum_tying_Day3.jpg" border=“2”> >target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/99067450/b3c44d0d/fre
>nulum_tying_Day3_closeup.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc151.4shared.com/img/99067450/b3c44d0d/fre
>nulum_tying_Day3_closeup.jpg" border=“2”>

>
>Day 5 Progress. Not a lot going on here. I pulled out
>the knot and as I suspected there was a slight
>narrowing of the sutured skin, but as soon as the area
>reduced, that took the pressure off the area so that
>the blood flow was no longer restricted:

> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/100187292/992d1a85/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_poly_knot.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc131.4shared.com/img/100187292/992d1a85/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_poly_knot.jpg" border="2"> rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/100187277/77c4c384/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_groove.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc131.4shared.com/img/100187277/77c4c384/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_groove.jpg" border="2">
>
>I decided to replace the suture with a new elastic
>thread so that as the skin withered, the elastic would
>shrink and keep the circulation off. This is “Stretch
>Magic” and it’s used for beading (making beaded
>jewelry) and is readily available in craft stores.
>Comes in sizes from 0.5mm to 1.8mm- I used the 0.5mm.
>The material is not identified but it appears to be
>silicone. It’s very stretchy and strong- not easily
>broken by hand. This time I used a large straight
>sewing needle that I could fit the thread through the
>eye. Surprisingly, the hole from the previous suture
>was near-impossible to locate! I could find one side
>but not the through-way and I think I ended up poking
>a new hole. Again, not really painful even though the
>large needle wasn’t that sharp. No blood at all.
>
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/100187286/875befdd/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_new_needle1.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc131.4shared.com/img/100187286/875befdd/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_new_needle1.jpg" border="2"> rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/100187272/7ae370b/fre
>nulum_tying_Day5_silicone_suture.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc131.4shared.com/img/100187272/7ae370b/fre
>nulum_tying_Day5_silicone_suture.jpg" border="2">
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/100187307/39473f74/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_silicone_knot2.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc131.4shared.com/img/100187307/39473f74/fr
>enulum_tying_Day5_silicone_knot2.jpg" border="2">
>
>Day 9: The elastic string seems to be working- albeit
>slowly. 4 days after replacing the poly suture with
>the elastic string, there's considerable reduction of
>the frenulum. If progress does not continue, I'll
>replace the elastic with some more tighter over the
>narrower frenulum. In hindsight, I think I tried to
>cut too much tissue in one pass. Perhaps I should have
>done a smaller cut but I was concerned that a partial
>cut might tear as it would be under a lot of tension
>near the edge of the frenulum where it was stretched.
>
>On the ghee topic, one of the triple-antibiotics (the
>cheap one) is petroleum-based. The other is more
>creamy but it has pain-killer (though not that
>necessary). The cream is white and thus makes it hard
>to examine the frenulum so I prefer the cheap stuff.
>
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/101228716/6262e792/fr
>enulum_tying_Day9_silicone_knot_bot.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/101228716/6262e792/fr
>enulum_tying_Day9_silicone_knot_bot.jpg"
>border="2"> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/101228683/c208c263/fr
>enulum_tying_Day9_silicone_knot_side.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/101228683/c208c263/fr
>enulum_tying_Day9_silicone_knot_side.jpg"
>border="2">
>
>
>Day 10~11: I inspected the knot tonight and it was
>definitely no longer tight. I cut it off and indeed
>the frenulum was almost completely cut through.
>There's maybe a mm of tissue left. I used a much
>larger needle and it went through easily whereas a
>smaller needle had to be forced through last time and
>the thread through the needle made a very tight fit.
>
>I re-tied the knot with the stretchy string. It was
>hard to get a tight knot, perhaps because of the small
>diameter or perhaps the disinfectant creme was making
>it too slippery. I pulled the knot very tight and
>there was absolutely no pain or sensation so maybe the
>remaining tissue is mostly dead. It was tempting to
>just snip through it and I was guessing that my clumsy
>tugging with the string might just finish it off by
>accident. No such luck.
>
>I'm wondering now just how it'll end. My guess is I'll
>pull the foreskin back to pee and it'll just snap. One
>of the 'worst case' fears is it'll snap at some bad
>time (at work) and start bleeding and I'll have to
>think of some story as to why my crotch is bleeding!
>Just that time of the month? :-)
>
>Day 10
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102355677/f803d740/fr
>enulum_tying_Day10_fremulum_reduction.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc150.4shared.com/img/102355677/f803d740/fr
>enulum_tying_Day10_fremulum_reduction.jpg"
>border="2"> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102355685/9195aaa3/fr
>enulum_tying_Day10_needle2.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc150.4shared.com/img/102355685/9195aaa3/fr
>enulum_tying_Day10_needle2.jpg" border="2"> rel=nofollow target=_blank >rel=nofollow target=_blank
>href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102355698/f63fe75f/fr
>enulum_tying_Day10_needle.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc150.4shared.com/img/102355698/f63fe75f/fr
>enulum_tying_Day10_needle.jpg" border="2">
>
>
>Day 11
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102355746/a5ebde22/fr
>enulum_tying_Day11_silicone_suture2.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc150.4shared.com/img/102355746/a5ebde22/fr
>enulum_tying_Day11_silicone_suture2.jpg"
>border="2"> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102355643/d443409a/fr
>enulum_tying_Day11_silicone_suture.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc150.4shared.com/img/102355643/d443409a/fr
>enulum_tying_Day11_silicone_suture.jpg"
>border="2"> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102355664/7811b7bb/fr
>enulum_tying_Day11_silicone_suture_close.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc150.4shared.com/img/102355664/7811b7bb/fr
>enulum_tying_Day11_silicone_suture_close.jpg"
>border="2">
>
>
>
>Day 14: SUCCESS!!! :-)
>I’ve been very busy the last few days and have only
>done the usual washing & applying disinfectant, and
>occasionally yanked on the string. It seemed tight so
>I didn’t worry about it. Today, I was lying down and
>er, um, ‘stretching’ my penis in bed and it felt like
>a little sharper twinge than normal. I turned over
>some ideas in my head as to how to proceed, and
>finally got aggravated and said, “To heck with it- I’m
>just going to snip it and if it hurts or bleeds- so
>what? It’ll just be over!”
>
>I got up and went to the bathroom & peed and then
>looked to see how thick it was and if there was a
>reason for the twinge. I was a little confused as
>while the string & knot were still in place, the
>frenulum looked quite different! It took me a minute
>to realize that it had finally cut through, and the
>knot was just holding onto a tiny shread of skin- not
>even visible. It came off with a tiny tug.
>
>I was surprised by the appearance as I’d expected
>something of a V-notch, like curtains that are tied
>back. Instead, it looked like a very ‘normal’ penis! I
>had expected that since my frenulum was quite large,
>and the cut I’d made looked small (though I’d placed
>the stitch fairly close to the head), that it’d take
>another couple of stitches to finish it up. But right
>now, it is looking pretty good! I think with a little
>stretching it’ll be fine. I was expecting some loose
>flaps of skin, but it pulls back fairly smoothly and I
>think that it will even get better as the tissue
>adjusts.
>
>It does have a tiny ‘tear’ or un-healed spot right at
>the V so I’m trying not to stress it too much for the
>pics, and trying not to get ‘excited’! :-) One very
>noteworthy thing is just how much better the foreskin
>retracts now, even with these pictures in the flaccid
>state. You’ll see in the earlier pics how I had to
>struggle to force it back for the pics. In the ‘after’
>pics, it just retract and stays that way- just like
>Nature intended! I’m sure it’ll be better with an
>erection, but that’ll have to wait a day or so as I
>want it to heal a bit.
>
>A look at the finished product. Notice that the
>frenulum line is fairly flat, even with very little
>tension applied. The gap is about 12mm.
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102352829/f5851bb1/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_frenulum_bottom.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/102352829/f5851bb1/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_frenulum_bottom.jpg"
>border="2"> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102352776/1311b558/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_frenulum_side.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/102352776/1311b558/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_frenulum_side.jpg" border="2">
>
>Here we see the foreskin retracted and is nicely
>hooked under the rim of the head. We also have a
>picture of the actual final silicone knot. Yoou see
>that the loop has completely been closed due to the
>elasticity of the thread. This is a very close shot-
>remember that the thread is only 0.5mm thick.
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102352870/f12e5750/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_penis_retracted_foreskin.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/102352870/f12e5750/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_penis_retracted_foreskin.jpg"
>border="2"> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102352636/76bf1a6b/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_silicone_knot.html"
>target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/102352636/76bf1a6b/fr
>enulum_tying_Day14_silicone_knot.jpg" border="2">
>
>And the much-anticipated before and after shots! I
>think these speak for themselves!
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102352845/aa69f01c/be
>fore_after_frenulum_bot.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/102352845/aa69f01c/be
>fore_after_frenulum_bot.jpg" border="2">
>
> >href="http://www.4shared.com/file/102352835/e52866db/be
>fore_after_frenulum_side.html" target=_blank> >src="http://dc146.4shared.com/img/102352835/e52866db/be
>fore_after_frenulum_side.jpg" border="2">
>
>All-in-all, while it took much longer than I’d
>anticipated, I’m very happy with the initial results!
>I also thing the silicone stretch string proved itself
>quite well, and had I used it initially it may have
>sped the process.
>
>I’ll give an update in a few days.

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