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[> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- blonde, 03:37:11 04/26/03 Sat

Dude! i totally agree with you! its a lot of crap and this kind of abuse is something u would SO see on oprah!~later

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[> [> [> cry for help -- kudisuleman, 00:10:01 03/19/07 Mon

Dear Beloved ,

Based on your profile, l am happy to request for your assistance because i belive that you are not going to betrayed the trust which i am going to lay on you.

My name is Miss kudi suleman, 21 years old and the only daughter of my late parents Mr.and Mrs suleman Ibrahim, My father was a highly reputable businness magnet-(a cocoa merchant) who operated in the capital of Ivory coast during his days. It is sad to say that he passed away mysteriously in France during one of his business trips abroad on 12th.November 2005.Though his sudden death was linked or rather suspected to have been masterminded by an uncle of his who travelled with him at that time, but God knows the truth!

My mother died when I was just 4 years old, and since then my father took me so special. Before the death of my Father on November 12th 2005 he called the secretary who accompanied him to the hospital and told her that he has the sum of ($12,500,000.00 United States Dollars) twelve Milion five hundred thousand dollars left in a metalic trunk trunk box, wich he deposited in a Security Company here in abidjan, that he registered it as family valuable items for security reasons, he told the secretary that i should contact the Company for them to know me as his next of kin wich i have did as he instructed,

He also told the secretary that i should not let any of his relations to know about this because he was kiled by them and if they know about it, that they will do nothing but to kill me in other to take hold of every thing, He told her that i should seek for a foriegn partner abroad who will help me retreived the trunk box and also travel with him or her in other to continue my Education and also to start a Bussines relationship with the person,

My dear in Christ, this is why i have come incontact with you in order to help me retreive that trunk box from the Security Companys custody and send it direct to your country and also to make an arrangement for me on how i will come over to your country in other to continue my Education and also to go into bussines relationship with you hence i am still a child and i dont know any thing about bussines,

I am just 21 years old and a university undergraduate and really don't know what to do. this is because I have suffered a lot of set backs as a result of incessant political crisis here in Ivory coast. The death of my father actually brought sorrow to my life.

My dear, I am in a sincere desire of your humble assistance in this regards and your suggestions and ideas will be highly regarded.
Now permit me to ask these few questions:

1. Can I completely trust you?
2.Can you accept me as your own blood Daughter Or Sister?
3.What percentage of the total amount in question will be good for you?

Consider this and get back to me as soon as possible with your full assurance that you will not disapoint me in this issue so that i can give you the contact of the Security Company where my late Father deposited that trunk box for you to contact them on how the trunk box will be retreived from their custody and deliver to your country,

Thank you soo much for your understanding and may almighty God bless you and your Family to the Glory of Almighty God in Jesus name Amen,

My sincere regards,

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[> [> [> [> Re: cry for help -- keeponcrying, 17:39:21 06/26/07 Tue

who are you fooling?

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[> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- SCARRED, 21:49:21 04/16/03 Wed

I was in Spring Creek and made to "introduce" new kids into the Wisdom family. It was sick and reprehensible. It is indeed an evil place.

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[> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- Private, 02:24:48 05/05/03 Mon

when were you there?

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[> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- Carl Bowie, 17:31:58 08/25/03 Mon

Hopkins didnt you work my family or were you some kid in wiznom. im carl bowie from unity and excell

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[> [> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- doc finch, 21:57:28 01/15/04 Thu

looking for info on spring creek lodge from those who have been there

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[> [> [> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- TJ, 13:38:25 02/26/04 Thu

This was a letter I wrote when something was printed negative. TJ

February 24, 2004

To Whom It May Concern:

I want to let the readers know how great Spring Creek Lodge is and how grateful we are for the facility. I dropped my son off at Spring Creek Lodge in Feb. 2003 and can only tell you what I have experienced and seen. I met with 6 students from different levels when I dropped of and enrolled my son into the program. I picked the kids I met with and not one was hateful about the school. They did not want to be away at a school, but they said the school treated them with respect. The level 5 child said it had become a place that went from him hating being dropped off, to a place he enjoyed because he was smiling again.

I went to PC 1 and my experience was interesting to say the least. Spring Creek had started to help turn my son�s life around. I had heard some negative press from a child that dropped out of the school before I arrived. So I pushed my son about the school, my son has only positive things to say about the staff and the way he was treated. He now has been at Spring Creek for 12 months and will be graduating soon. When my son got to come home on a pass or we went to visit, he was like another child. The family could not believe how much he had changed nor could his siblings. His sister cried, saying I have my brother back. I have referred 3 other families to this facility that were in great desperation to save their child. They also say the same about their kids, how much of a change they see in them and thank me continually for saving them and their child.

My other 2 children have been to the youth camp that has the same seminars that Resource Realizations uses. They have and still are raving about the camp. They have offered to go back and staff the camp in the future. When their brother gets home, they all want to go and staff together. They are triplets and it would be something special for them to do. They talk all the time about the tools they learned about and how they use them in everyday life.

Please understand this is not a joy camp, nor is it a vacation. These kids are in trouble or else they would not be there. My son and many of the other kids where headed down a very bad path. Yes, there has to be some discipline at the school, but my son has never seen anything that was terrible or abusive at all. Look at it this way, as I see what my son has learned, I would love to have lived in the mountains and learn about life when I was 16. We all had to learn by trial and error.

I said something at a seminar and I say it again. What about the people who work there, give them credit for turning lives around. They have been nothing but kind to my family, others and myself. You have to love children to work under those conditions, some of these kids just came off the streets and are full of hate and anger. Go work there and save a few lives, then you can talk about what you know and don�t know.

I saw and heard the joy and thanks from other children when we were at PC II, yes the kids. I heard the parents cry and say thank you to the school for saving a child. You show me someone who complains and I�ll show you 50 that cheer and thank Spring Creek all the time. This program works incredibly with the children and the parents.

I have made this a little long, but that is how much I believe in what they are doing at Spring Creek. They saved my son�s life, period. I have sat many nights thanking God that I have my son back from the dark side. Thank You Spring Creek For All That You Have Done!

I can be reached at texastj46@hotmail.com if there are any questions. Feel free to publish my thoughts and email me a phone number if you would like to talk about my experience. TJ

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- from Eternity, 07:29:50 11/16/04 Tue

I dont know why all you little B*tches get together and do nothing but complain about of how bad the program was. ESPECIALLY Montana!! Any of you people on here who actually were in the program ever go to the out of country facilities? Stop B*tchin! Truth is you probably never stop talking about it, wearing it like a badge on your sleeve like you were sent to prison by your own parents. Grown up! I was there for 2 years, I missed out on my entire high-school experience, so what, it sucked, I lived, I moved on. I even went back to work there to finish the last part of my school, and yeah while it sucked and some things I didnt agree with, alot of those people were sincerely dedicated to their job and making a difference (not all of them) but most of them. Be thankful you experienced something like that, and be thankful your not there now, but stop blaming everyone on oh how fragile your pathetic mind is, and how they traumatized you, and oh brainwashing...grow up and move on!!!!
Former Student who isnt a whiney little b*tch about it

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[> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- crashrisk, 07:39:16 10/18/04 Mon

i was there from 98-2000. people have no clue of what kind of brainwashing goes on there. the kind of that go on there make u want to be in jail or prison.

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[> [> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- sean, 05:19:06 10/31/05 Mon

i was there from april 97 to oct 98 i would agree with the brain washing public beware of camron and chaffin they donto tell the truth only what the parents want to hear they tortured me literally write me and i will tell you all

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[> [> [> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- sean, 05:33:10 10/31/05 Mon

tell me do you think starving beating and duct taping from head to toe literally are not torture well this is only a fraction af the pain they caused me in my life not to mention the sexual abuse that took place with one of the counselers and me very tramatizing have never been the same since if you have any questions or doubts email me @ the-dvs-irish@hotmail.com ill tell you what happened i was there a year and a half and never had home insight till my dad found out my mom stashed me in some messed up program in montana that place really messed up my life i will never be the same and changed for the worst i am very violent now and have a deep disire to severly hurt people for no reason and almost cant control it

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[> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- antiwwasp.com, 08:14:02 01/02/07 Tue

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[> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- Bob Zmuda, 00:12:25 10/30/03 Thu

Spring creek lodge is nothing more than an easy way for people to brainwash their children into conforming out of fear with no genuine change. It is opportunism at it's absolute most disgusting level. This place steals children's already fleeting innocence and harshly throws them into a stark reality of rape, violence, greed, deception, loss, desperation, and lingering vivid nightmares that those of us who attended carry forever (I have since I left). This place completely stands against what America is supposed to stand for and would be more fitting in North Korea. I hope nothing but pain and anguish for those who aid in keeping this hell afloat.
FORMER INMATE

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[> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- Concerned, 18:36:26 10/18/05 Tue

All potential participants in the Spring Creek Lodge program need to be aware of the lies being told by staff to acquire the thousands of dollars by unsuspecting participants of their nightmarish program. They will tell you they don't screen letters and deliver everything sent. Although you will receive an email confirmation back stating they have received the letter and it will be delivered to your child, you find out they have lied and your child has been virtually cut off from all communication with their family members who fell victim to this horrific program. Then, when you want to pull your child out, they stand in your way, don't let you speak to them on the phone, and make you enlist the aid of the local sherrif to remove your child, the child you have custody of, from their facility. Parents need to be very aware of Spring Creek Lodge is all about. They don't give you all the data up front until your child is out of your reach. They require you to attend 3 day seminars in order to even see your child. Imagine that, telling you when you can see your own flesh and blood. They convince individuals such as Carole Sousa that her son, the son she lost control of, is better off with them. She then fights her ex-husband, the ex that has legal physical custody, with a restraining order so he cannot remove his son from that hell hole. The hell hole she convinced him was beneficial for their son. She then conspires with the school to keep their son from having any communication with his father. Any reasonably intelligent human being would know this is wrong. She should be stripped of all parental rights as well as the right to be called a mother. Spring Creek Lodge should be disbanded with all employees being sent to mental institutions.

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[> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- Matt, 19:12:09 12/29/05 Thu

If this is such a problem as you people say, why aren't there any investigations going on there?

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[> [> Re: Spring Creek Lodge -- Nathan, 19:14:31 12/29/05 Thu

Same question.