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Subject: Tips - Sewing dresses for others


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Date Posted: 22:23:31 03/13/01 Tue
In reply to: K 's message, "Dressmakers/Seamstresses" on 15:49:47 03/10/01 Sat

I recently finished making a solo dress for my daughter. I am quite happy with it and enjoyed working on it. A few people have approached me asking me if I had plans to start sewing dresses for others. I know the problem of taking something you love to do and making it into a business - takes a lot of the joy out of it. And I also read the recent postings from some of the dressmakers which recount horror stories of demanding and abusive dance mothers; wanting their dress now and for nothing. So, having said all that, I'd like some advice from dressmakers and mothers. Is Irish dance dressmaking worth doing as a business? I'd appreciate any and all advice.

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-If you are going to make it a business, then you must treat it as a business. Remember to respect the market. Prices are set for a reason. Some people enter into it with the idea of undercutting the current market. This is not the way to go. Start out with a business plan. Figure out your materials costs, labour costs, overhead, fixed costs etc. You also need to add in a bit of profit. Remember that the other dressmakers are doing this for a living, not to supplement (or be subsidized by) another income.

-Make it easy on yourself - find a nice first customer who understands that this is your first go and is willing to work with you and has no "deadline" pressure. Take ONLY this ONE (1), I repeat ONE customer. Do not trap yourself by promising anybody else anything!!! See how it goes from there. Do not ever be afraid of the word "no". Don't let yourself get a long waiting list until you are sure you are committed to this. You also need to have a reasonable sense of how long it takes you to make a single dress if your are doing this all the time. Making your kid a dress and putting real life on hold is one thing. But you cannot live that way forever.

-I too started out making my daughters dress. I was overrun with orders from our dance studio. For the most part people were great, but there are always those few that blow it for everyone else. Because I'm doing it from home and I'm just a MOM, they expect it for nothing. I can't wait for Oirachtas to be over. After that, I'm just making the dresses I want to. If someone at the studio wants to buy it, fine, if not I'll take it to a feis to sell. I've been approached by many people from other schools who would be thrilled to buy a dress. There is a huge demand, and not a lot of supply.

-I agree wholeheartedly with the above posters. When you start that first dress, add up every little bit of time it takes you, from start to finish. You may be surprised at just how much time it actually takes. For example, purchasing fabrics -- If you spend time driving to fabric stores or on-line searching, keep track of that time also. Your time is precious, and you should charge for it.

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[> [> Subject: Sewing for others as a business


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Date Posted: 14:38:33 03/15/01 Thu

I AM INTERESTED IN MAKING SOLO DRESSES AND SELLING THEM FOR A LITTLE PROFIT. I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HERE KNEW THE BEST DRESSES TO BEGIN MAKING, AND WHERE WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO SELL THEM. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT FEISES ARE A GOOD IDEA. ALSO, WHAT TYPES OF DRESSES ARE POPULAR THESE DAYS? MY SISTER IS 7 AND I MADE HER A VERY SIMPLE DRESS FROM A PATTERN I FOUND IN A CRAFT STORE. WHAT IS A POPULAR SIZE TO MAKE DRESSES FOR? ALSO, WHERE CAN I FIND A PATTERN FOR MAKING MORE INTRICATE DRESSES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE? I HAVE BEEN TO A FEW FEISES AND HAVE SEEN GIRLS WITH COTTAGES AND HARPS ON THEIR DRESSES THAT DON'T SEEM TO BE STITCHED, BUT RATHER SEWED ON. IS THAT A GOOD IDEA? IS THAT POPULAR? I AM A COMPLETE BEGINNER AT THIS AND THOUGH I HAVE BEEN DANCING I AM IN MY SCHOOL DRESS AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE MINE WITHOUT A LITTLE PRACTICE FIRST. WHAT IS A FAIR PRICE FOR DRESSES? P.S. DO I HAVE TO SELL THE BLOOMERS WITH THE DRESS?

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Before you take the plunge, there is a lot to consider. First you need a pattern. You can contact Irish Threads, find them through Ann's Place. The common sizes I sell are girls 8, 10, 12 and ladies size 12. You also need designs. You can buy the 7 Gates designs through the Ceili Company, also found on Ann's Place. You should look at as many dresses as possible before you begin. They are very, very time consuming and really not something for a beginner sewer. Some of the common things in dresses right now are lots of shiney fabrics to ornament the dress as well as shiney sleeves. Neons were in, but now they are going out. They will probably come back someday. Lace on the sleeves is common, lots of swarovski rhinestones. Too much to go into now.

-Solo dresses are much more difficult to make than it may first appear - at least the kind that have the hefty price tags. You might be able to make simpler "Riverdancy" dresses for adults. Adult dancers usually do not want costumes that are as elaborate as the younger dancers, and they will often opt for something with less stiffening. I know from experience that getting the level of stiffening expected in a championship level solo dress is easier said than done. But even for the simpler dresses, dancers generally want quality. When you speak of designs that are not stitched but "sewn on" I think you must mean applique as contrasted with embroidery. That you are not familiar with these terms makes me think you may be a novice seamstress. It just might be possible for you to find a school that needs a seamstress for their school costume or for beginner costumes (if the school costume is quite elaborate, as many are). Certainly, practice with a dress for yourself or your sister and you'll get an idea what you're up against. Yes, bloomers and crowns are generally included in the "package".

-If you are not a very accomplished seamstress, then I would not encourage you to tackle something like this. Practice as some others have suggested, on a dress for yourself or friends. There is much more involved here than meets the eye. The fabrics and trims are expensive and you can get in over your head quickly if you don't know what you are doing. Working with someone that is already doing your school dresses would be a good idea. This will give you an idea of what you are in for before you dive in and find out you are not cut out for this, or don't have the skills necessary. Then again, you may have and you will have a good "in" with your school, and off you go! Good luck. I love making them, and I waded in the business after doing applique professionally for almost 20 years experience. Look at my site, www.seamssewnice.com and you will see some of what I do. Please write and I'll answer questions you might have if I can.

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[> [> Subject: What to include with dress


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Date Posted: 22:14:17 09/18/01 Tue

When you get a dress made to order does your dressmaker make you a headband too???

-When I maked a solo dress, my price includes the dress, shall(cape), bloomers to match the lining, and a crown. I suggest that when you employ a dress maker, you ask what her price includes. I also include a ziplock bag with an 8"x8" swatch of each fabric used in the dress as well as a list of all the embroidery/satin stitch threads on an index card. This way if there are any *accidents* with dresses, the little rescue kit can sometimes be enough to save the dress.

-I provide a crown, scrunchies, and flashpants with each solo dress order. Each individual dressmaker has her own way of doing things, though;)


-Usually the dressmaker can make them. Whether they are included in the price is another question. my dress quotes are for the dress and bloomers. I give a discount on any tiara, headpiece, or dress bag that is ordered though.

-I always include the headband (tiara) and bloomers.

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[> [> Subject: velveteen dresses


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Date Posted: 16:26:44 04/04/06 Tue

i'm very interested in making my own dresses for church, but i'm always afraid of velveteen but i think those are the most beautiful materials to work with, please give me some pointers, i just want simple patterns, something i won't make too many mistakes with. i would really appreciate it. thanks

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