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Boy, 7-20yo, Eastern Europe, extensive internal health checks, adjustment and research

I am male. It happened in Eastern Europe, 2000-2009 2010-2014, each year from 7yo to 20yo.

I receive the invitation by post. One week before the examination I was not allowed to have more physical strain or sex or hurt. I had to shave my whole body which I did not do.

My parents told me to go to the general exam.
And they told me that it was in my interest and I had to listen to everything without interference. Otherwise I would get a severe punishment upon return.

I got there by various means from time to time: My parents drove me to the exam sometimes and I went there alone by myself somtimes, to a room in the school that was preliminary prepared for the event, to a health center and to a doctors office. The exam also occurred at home.

It seemed that the selcection criteria for the exam varied at the different times and age groups, and it could be: All children in my school of the age group, all children with some kind of health problem, children that had been treated or examined by a psychologist or psychiatrist beforehand, all children that authorities suspected had been subjected to sexual abuse, or all children that have shown more than just standard interest for sexual matters.

PREPARATIONS

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I got laxatives at home to clean out my stomach the day before the exam. They washed my body before the exam. I sometimes got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach. My stomach was sometimes cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine.

I was uncloded each time, but the uncloding procedure varied: Sometimes I was totally naked through all the procedures. Sometimes I mostly only had my underwear on the time I stayed awake. Sometimes I had to take all my clothes off just before I got anesthesia. Sometimes the staff took my clothes of some time before the anesthesia had made its effect. Sometimes I had to strip totally naked before the exam.

Since the exam occurred many times with various procedures, I remember all thinkable positions I was placed in:

They placed me upon a simple examination table. They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.

I was placed to lay on my back with steight legs. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices. I was placed to lay on my stomach with my legs flexed down and spread. I was placed to lay on my right and left side.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got IV tube into blood vessels in a leg. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a toe. I got electrodes on my cheast. I got electrodes on my stomach or hip region. I got electrodes on my legs. I got electrodes on my head. I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I got something to swallow.

ANESTHESIA GIVEN

They adminitered various kind of anesthesia on me at the various times:

Parts of my body got numbed by a shot with a syringe. I got anesthesia through a tube into my anus that had effect on my whole body. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my anus.

The anesthesia sometimes only took away pain. Sometimes they paralyzed my whole body and I got artificial breathing. Sometimes the anesthesia made me relaxed but I was conscious. Sometimes I was mostly awake during the procedure despite anesthesia given.

EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas.

They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed. They did some other type of test with advanced machines.

They examined me with an ultraound device at my head, neck, upper body, stomach area, shoulder area, hip area, arms and legs.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest stomach, shoulder area, hip area and my limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, my chest, belly, limbs.

They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.

INTERNAL INSPECTIONS - OVERVIEW

They inspected the inside of my nose with a scope They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They took specimens from my bladder with a tube.
They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope. They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

They made an opening in my belly button or just under it and inspected the inside of my belly with a scope. They took specimens from the inside of my belly with a needle or tube through a hole in my belly button.

ARRANGEMENT AFTER THE EXAM - OVERVIEW

I had breathing tube. I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. I just lay some time in a bed to recover. I lay naked under a blanket after the exam.

STORY OF THE EXAMINATIONS AS EXPERIENCED

After washing, my whole body shaved
- my whole body was measured (head neck, breast, abdomen, hands, feet penism testicles ...) they measured the mobility of all my joints
- I had to go naked, run, jump, squats, handles ... until exhausted
- I have injected my breast and both testicles
- my penis inserted an electrode that vibrated and gave electric shock
- I had to repeat myself
- the whole examination was shot by several cameras and very photographed. The test lasted from 8am to 19am.

STORY OF THE EVENTS AFTER THE MAIN EXAMINATION AS EXPERIENCED

About two hours I lay naked with my legs in the stirrups while checking my penis testicles and anus several times and using a cool ointment.
There was another naked boy and two girls in the room.
Then they gave me two pills and I fell asleep.

In the morning I woke up in bed I was still naked with a blanket and all over my body I had electrode on both the penis and the testicles the electrodes I had in the penis and the rectum.

My hands were tied behind my head and legs more than 90 degrees apart were strapped to the bed. I still had a catheter in my penis.
An hour later the doctor examined me in detail removed the electrodes and exchanged the catheter.

I was photographed naked and shot at camera in different positions (lying on the bed on my back and on my stomach on the four and standing on all sides and from the bottom). After lunch they returned my clothes and drove me home. With the catheter I had to take an exam every day and take it out in a week.
During the inspections I have received several injections, allegedly antibiotics.

THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I went to a Montessori school. I went to a evening or weekend ballet school.

COMMENTS

A great part of what is told about here is a standard exam procedure all children go through at certain ages in selected communities and schools around the world. The procedure is coordinated by some international organizations, most probably Unicef or WHO.

Montessory schools very often participate in this program.

But this boy also seemed to have participated in an even more extensive probram with the purpose of studying the bodily development of kids. Kids in ballet schools and Montessory schools are often used for such research, and the schools and sometimes the parents get money for it.

It also looks that thay treated him inside his urinary system and stomach to adjust his bodily functions so that they conformes to requirements from the ballet school or the society, and perhaps to adjust some real development problems found.

Knut Holt

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Boy, 10yo, Cystoscopy performed at home

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America when I was 10 years old in year 2008.

A doctor and nurse team performed the cystoscopy in a home visit.

PREPARATION

Got no explanation. The exam was a total surprize. They just said: spread your legs and relax. It was at home.

Taken vitals like temperature, heart rate and blood pressure. God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. It was almost like peeking in reverse.

THE EXAM AS EXPERIENCED

They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside. It was so wierd, i can't really explain how it felt but having that rod in me was so strainge. It was the strangest feeling thing ever.

They only had an adult sized cope so they had to use those instead of the kiddie version.They went all the way to make a house call and brought the wrong sized scope.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had to have catheter in the bladder during night.

REASON AND JUDGEMENTS

The reason was problems with urination. It was useful. It was not any big deal. It was humiliating or awful.

COMMENTS

It looks like certain places in America have special teams that visit homes of children and teens in order to perform intimate procedures when a child gets problems with intimate functions, or just as a mandatory health check with focus on the intimate zones. It is not told if the urination problem was accute or or was something recognized some time.

But because the exam was a big surprize, I guess that this was a mandatory check to see if the boy had problems in the genitals, urethra and bladder, and that they just said he had problems with urination, and that the same happened to other boys in the area too, and possibly also girls.

It looks like those that prepared the equipment for the team thought that an older teenager was the patient and packed a wrong sized cystoscope.

Knut Holt

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Man, 50-59yo, cystosopy with possible Kideney inspection too

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America, 50 -59 years old, Year 2006. Had cystoscopy in a health centre.

PREPARATION

Got an accurate explanation of what should be done and the reason. I drove myself to the urologist's office.
Had to walk by myself to the exam. Got lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the urethra.

I lay on my back with streight legs. The urologist's assistant told me to take off all of my clothes below the waist and lie down on the examination table.

HOW THEY PERFORMED THE CYSTOSOPY

They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside.

DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UPS

Other diagnosis please comment. Suspected kidney stone but didn't find anything. Maybe the stone had passed.

JUDGEMENT

It was useful. It was painful.

COMMENTS

A cystosopy is a simple procedure that can easily be done without any other anesthesia than pain-killing lubrication or other simple pain-killing techniques and gentle approach.

If one performs it with general anesthesia, which is common especially in young persons, and sometimes in elder ones, there will usually be no pain during the procedure, but the induction of anesthesia and effects of it after the procedure will usually be more uncomfortable than
the procedure itself with simple pain-killing techniques.

In this case the choise of not using deep anesthesia was probabøly right, but the doctor possibly acted clumpsily so that he caused unneccesary pain. It is possible that they also looked further up all the way to his Kidneys, which can also explain the pain.

Knut Holt

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Boy, 16yo, SE Asia, extensive internal and external procedures for research in juvenile prizon

I am male. It happened in Asia, in 2010-2014, 16 years old After reading the answers from that boy in Asia who were at a reform school, I will answer about a similar but even much more extended examination I went through about the same time.

When this happened I was serving a 1-year sentence at a juvenile prison. All I was told was that I was selected to have a special health examination and to be part of some research experiment. My parents was not informed about this.

It happened at a special establishment used for these type of exams. The morning the exam would start I was taken out to a van and driven to the place where the examination took place. As a prisoner I had to wear hand and leg cuffs while being transported and they also put on a blindfold so I couldn't see where we were going. I think the ride took about an hour.

When arrived I was led into a building and through a couple of doors. There inside a small room the blindfold and the cuffs was removed and I was ordered to strip. Uniform was just shorts and t-shirt so it was fast. Uniform was taken by the guards who followed me there.
I do not know why they selected me for this exam.

THE PREPARATIONS AND INITIAL MEASUREMENTS AS EXPERIENCED

They took me into another room with tiled walls and floor where I got an enema to clean out my bowels and then I got to shower. They also shaved off my pubic hair. I don't have much other body hair.

Then I was taken into a examination room where they first began with weighing me and measure me. Like with the other boy they took EVERY measure on my body that can be taken. First my height and then measures around my body and around all my limbs.

They took lots of measures of my genitals both flaccid and erect and also many different measures of my nipples like diameter of nipples and how much they did stick out from my chest. They also took many photos of every part of my body. This was done both while I was standing and laying on a table.

TEST OF BODILY AND MENTAL REACTIONS

After that they put a lot of electrodes all over my body attached to a device. I had to sit in a special chair and arms and legs was strapped to the chair and I had to answer lots of questions and look at many pictures. During these questions some of the electrodes sometimes gave me small electric shocks not painful more like tickling or tingling feeling but very distracting, and I think they checked how I reacted to that.

After that they placed me on a special examination table with many advanced devices around it. My arms and legs and whole body was strapped to the table so I could not move. I also had a tube inserted into my mouth that kept my mouth open and I could not speak.

After they had done a series of tests I then had to do exercises and running on a treadmill and then I was strapped on the special examination again and more tests were done.
The staff all the time wore white coats mouth covers and covers over their hair all I really could see was their eyes.

No one talked to me except for asking questions and telling me what to do.

THE INTERNAL INSPECTIONS AS EXPERIENCED

Many of the internal exams was very unpleasant and painful. For many hours they used a lot of different devices both in my anus and especially in my urethra. Both rigid and flexible rods and tubes were used and I could feel the instruments moving around inside me.
Like with the other boy they was giving very much attention to my nipples and testicles during the whole exam.

I was also given several injections during the exam and some of the injections were put right into both my nipples and also I got injections in my testicles.
I'm not sure if they did something in my belly button there was nothing visible afterwards but I had a strange pain there for a couple of days.

I was not told anything about what they did but many tests and internal examinations were done while I was strapped to the table.

TEST OF URINARY AND GENITAL FUNCTIONS

They took urine samples from my bladder and they made me ejaculate several times. They measured the quantity and how long it took until I could ejaculate again. They filled my bladder with several different fluids some of it hurt quite bad. Especially when they filled my bladder to max and I had to keep it for a quite long time I also had to run on the treadmill with my bladder full and with all the electrodes on my body. A catheter stopped it from leaking out. During the whole time I was there they measured the amount of urine they emptied from my bladder.

ARRANGEMENTS AND ACTIVITIES AFTER THE MAIN EXAM
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My hands was strapped to the bed not very tight but I was not allowed to touch myself. One night they made the room really cold with AC on max and another night it was very hot.

During the days they made more tests and examinations mostly similar to the first day but even more extensive and thorough.

Some days were almost only medical examinations and some days more of exercises. Every morning they used a special device with a tube to clean out my bowels.

I had a catheter all the time except when they did other examinations in my bladder. Every day they also took several samples of my sperm.

Already after the first day my nipples was swollen and very sensitive and got even more so during the week. Also my penis and testicles was very sensitive and penis got hard very often and stayed hard for long time.

After the week guards came to take me back. I was told I had to keep the catheter for some time since my urethra would be very sore. The guards had not brought my uniform so I had to go back to the prison still naked and the guards didn't care about that.

The doctor told that my nipples and genitals would be sensitive for some time so clothes would be uncomfortable to wear. Because of that I did not get a shirt to wear just shorts for the rest of my time.

I was called back for some after check-ups during the following months but these were not at all so extended. They lasted only some hours. Also for the check-ups I had to be totally naked all the time.
My nipples stayed sore and swollen for maybe 3-4 months after the exam and still is bigger and more protruding than before the exam. My testicles felt bigger and heavier than before the exam.

Also now after several years my nipples and penis is still more sensitive than before the exam and my penis often gets fully hard even if I'm not aroused or excited.

SUMMARY OF DETAILS I REMEMBER FROM THE DIFFERENT FACES OF THE EXPERIENCE

Preparations and arrangements

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They washed my body before the exam. I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach. My stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine. I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam.

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I got electrodes on my stomach or hip region. I got electrodes on my legs. I got electrodes on my head.

I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I did not get any anesthesia.

Tests with external equipment

They performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They performed an ECG functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas.

They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They examined me with an ultrasound device or something similar at my head or neck, my upper body, my stomach area, my shoulder area, my hip aream my arms and legs.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, my stomach, my shoulder area, my hip area, my limbs.

They used electrodes to record functions inside my head, my chest, my belly, my limbs .

They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.

Internal inspections

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra and bladder with a tube.

They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. They performed a full colonoscopy with a flexible scope. They inspected me through my anus with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

Arrangements after the exam

They held me inconscious for some hours. I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my head. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. I also just lay some time in a bed to recover. Some other type of arrangements.

THE SCHOOL I WENT TO

I went to some other type of school. Not a school a juvenile prison where I was for 1 year in 2013 for a small crime. This was in South-east Asia.

COMMENTS

The boy was surely used in a scientific project to test bodily an mental functions, and to do experiments on body development.

As with the other the purpose also might have been to alter his bodily function, mental reactions and anatomy to conform to standards set by society, or to test ways to make such alternations.

Possibly he got the sentence of 1 year in the prizon mainly to be able to use him as guinea pig in these projects, and the judge highly possibly got honoraries for providing teens to this project.

Knut Holt

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Boy, 12yo, fieldtripp with school class for extensive internal exams through all body openings

I am male. It happened in Eastern Europe. 1980-1989, 14 years old. We got there in a bus in group from our school to a health center, a doctors office. All children in my school of the age group had this procedure.

PREPARATIONS BEFORE THE ORDEAL

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I was totally naked through all the procedures. I had to strip totally naked before the exam. They placed me upon a simple examination table and also upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.

I was placed in many positions: to lay on my back with streight legs, with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon the devices, on my stomack with streight legs, on my stomach with my legs flexed down and spreadm on my right side, on my left side.

I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast. I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got a tube or sond in through my anus. I did not get any anesthesia, except that the tube in my anus might have delivered somesedative medication.

EXAMINATIONS WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an ECG, functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.

They took chest x-ray pictures. They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.

INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They took specimens from my nose with a tube. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope. They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They took specimens from my bladder with a tube.
They inspected my anus with a speculum. They took specimens from my anus with a tube. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE ORDEAL

I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I had a tube going in through my anus. I had a tube hging in through my nose or down into my stomach. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam.

THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school.

COMMENTS

This is an standardized extensive examination procedure that selected communities or schools in all parts of the world perform on kids at specific ages. It seems to have begun in the late 1950es and has been going on all the time since then, and it is still going on more than ever. It has however been continually updated with new technology using more advanced endoscopes and computers.

The main purpose of the procedure is a surveillance of the young population it the world and research, but some communities chose to participate because they think this is for the best of the kids or because it makes them keep controle of the kids better. The procedure is probably adminitered by the World Health Organization and certain research institutions, and sponsored by certain foundations too.

The communist block seemed to participate in the same way as the western societies. Interestingly there were less secrecy about this program in the communist block than in the west, while in the west one did not and does not still speak about these procedures to the public.

In the west, the kid is usually heavily anesthetized during the procedure so that heshe does not remember much in most cases. In the eastern societies less anesthesia is used.

Sometimes they perform certain adjustments in the urinary systemm genitalks and digital system of the kids during the procedure, probably to make body functions more regular and according to the time-schedule and standard of the school and society. The tubes down into his stomach and into his anus are an indictaion that this was done with this boy.

Knut Holt

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Norway has established centers where authorities or also parents themselves can send children for forensic interrogation, socio-psychological assessment, general physical exam and gynecological style exam. It is the meaning that children can be sent to these centers on very easy and wide criteria. They are cozely called "Statens Barnehus", menaing "the child houses of the government".

The centers are said by authorities to have the purpose of detecting child abuse on children upon suspicion, and investigating child abuse, but by scrutinizing documents from authorities, one can also read that they have the purpose of doing research on children and of surveilling the youngest part of the population and their parents regarding social, sexual and all intimate matters. One gets the impression that all kids in Norway are planned to get scrutinized at least a couple of times in such a center during childhood and teenhood.

What happens in these child houses are more or less like this.

- The child with guardian enter and there follow a general conversation. They are also offered something light to drink or eat to make them at ease. Highly probably the thing given to the child contain some relaxing stuff to make the child cooperative, but without being overtly doped down.

- The child is interviewed in a cozy room by a especially trained nurse, psychologist or similar without the guardian.

- Then comes a forensic interview in another cozy room by a especially trained police officer. During this interview, everything is videotaped. The interview is also true-time followed by video by a team of psychologists, lawyers, child protective officers and other experts.

- The child is then taken into an examination room, also with a cozy atmosphere and all clothes are taken off the child, if not all at once, it happens stepwise during the subsequent examination.

- They examine the child externally from top to toe, and are especially keen to document any marks of injury. They take photographs of the child totally naked, both whole body postures and details of finding. This is done by a video camera that is discretely placed.

- They place the kid totally naked onto a gynecology table suited for the shape and size of a child, flex and spread the legs of the kid and place the legs onto stirrups or something similar.

- The genitals and buttocks of the kid are spread, and they examine visually and take photographs of all parts. They also take specimen probes from all the intimate openings and some way inside. The intimate area is photographed broadly and in detail with video camera and colposcope.

- They may also place the child in knee-chest position to make the anus open better to look inside and watch reflexive reactions. This is also photographed.

- The room is equipped to do inspection of urethra, bladder, rectum and lower colon under anesthesia. They inform that internal exams are not one, but it the construction of the room is much like a surgery room, but with much of the equipment hided. I guess such intrusive exams is done also, but after luring more anesthesia into the kid.

- The sites have facilties to stay over-night and have staff at place day and night, which is a strong indication that more extensive examination is also done, partly secret for the child and guardian.

- After it all, the child is allowed to take clothes on and the child and guardian have a terminal conversation with the staff. But those that

Everything happening during the ordeal is videotaped and voicerecorded. The photographs taken of the child and videos are deposited in databases belonging to the Norwegian government, and will be there forever. They will be used by many authorities that will have something to do with the child in the years to come, and they will be used in research and education of experts of various kind.

The child himherself or the guardian will not know in detail what the photographs show, will not get access to them, and know how they will be used.

One only informs that photographs taken will be on secure sites.

But Norway being a very messy country, these are only some of many places where these things are done. As with many other things that are held in a cozy and deceptively style, These establishments advertise openly to make as many children as possible to come for assessment. But there is something hideous about the way they describe themselves.

Knut Holt

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I am female. It happened at schoolage 6-9, in North America, in the years 1970-1979. I had tonsillectomy or adenectomy. The procedure happened in a hospital. I had to have my tonsils out Parents took me there.

SYMPTOMS AFTER THE PROCEDUTE

I had pain irritition or other problems in my mouth. I had pain irritation or other problems in my respiratory tract or lungs.

ANESTHESIA AND ARRANGEMENTS

They gave me sedative medicines through my anus. They gave me gas through a mask.

My gown was pulled down and off and ekg patches were placed at various places on my bare chest before I went to sleep.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE

They kept the gown off but covered with a blanket. When I woke up. I was lying on my side, gown still off. I think they were taking my temp.

I hav iV in hand I had an oxygen mask. No catheter in my bladder. A thermometer in my butt. Ekg pads were still on my chest. They took my rectal temp listened to chest with stethoscope. Woke up in recovery room, throat hurt, I was crying.

COMMENTS

This seems to be a standard tonsillectomy procedure. Children are sometimes sedated before the main anesthesia with medicating injected through the anus. They probably took rectal temperature on here after the procedure. They possibly also placed a suppository with sedative and pain killing medication. They probably placed a tube in her throut just after the gas had made its effect and gave her oxygen and gas through that through the procedure.

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Subject: Audrey Almaraz
Author: Eva Gonzales (happy) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03/ 8/07 7:50:32am Why does Audrey have a title. She was sleeping with her step-father. That's why her mom divorced him. That's just gross. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Audrey Almaraz -- C Beck (happy), 03/ 8/07 7:57:38am

Subject: Miss Valley Teenage 06 Pageant
Author: Rebecca O., Director [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03/ 7/06 5:36:29pm Pageant is scheduled for June 11, 2006 . Congradulations to our 2005 winner, Nancy Arellano of Harlingen, Texas.Contestants are needed!! please contact Rebecca at (956) 454-3065 if interested. Serious calls only, please. You can also email me at Rebeccao8785@yahoo.com for more info. Thanks. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Pageants in Rio grande City
Author: :( [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02/15/06 1:45:04pm There is no Miss Rio Grande City pageant this year and really pageants in rio are dying out. I would really like to see one be done and with the same system as the rest of the valley there is alot of talent out there and just no one to organize or get anything done. Please help!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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You should contact the people at ValleyQueens.Com from what I hear, they talk to communitie and pageant directors. Maybe they can help out with advertising and promoting. (NT) -- Lovely, 02/15/06 9:17:39pm

Subject: Miss Congeniality: Susie Suarez Duchess of Papaya, Miss Photogenic, Duchess of Poinsietta , 2nd Alt: Kimberly Alaniz Duchess of Yellow Rose, 1st Alt: Sarahi Chapa Duchess of Retama
Author: Resultsfor Mission Queen Citrana Pageant [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01/27/06 10:17:17pm Miss Congeniality: Susie Suarez Duchess of Papaya Miss Photogenic , Duchess of Poinsietta 2nd Alt: Kimberly Alaniz-Duchess of Yellow Rose 1st Sarahi Chapa-Duchess of Retama Lady in Waiting Amy Sojak-Duchess of Ebony Princess of Orange-Veronica Trevino-Duchess of Periwinkle Princess of Grapefruit-Gerogina Guerrero Duchess of Poinsietta Queen: Particia Espinosa-Princess of Orange Blossom [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Miss Congeniality: Susie Suarez Duchess of Papaya, Miss Photogenic, Duchess of Poinsietta , 2nd Alt: Kimberly Alaniz Duchess of Yellow Rose, 1st Alt: Sarahi Chapa Duchess of Retama -- :), 02/15/06 1:48:32pm pictures of them are at www.valleyqueens.com (NT) -- Tam, 02/15/06 9:14:47pm

Subject: New Local Pageant Website !!! www.valleyqueens.com
Author: 2 for Tuesday [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01/23/06 1:30:41pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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wow... there are lots of pictures of the Queen Citriana Pageant and Parade on www.valleyqueens.com (NT) -- valleyqueens fan, 01/28/06 10:39:53pm New pictures added to valleyqueens.com of Miss Texas/Teen Belleza Latina 2006 (NT) -- SP, 02/ 8/06 5:42:06am

Subject: Queen Citriana - Royal Reception
Author: Beautiful dresses and creative touches! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01/19/06 7:43:18pm This is such a nice event held by the Citrus Fiesta...it's on Saturday (1/21) 7:30p.m. at Mario's Ballroom in Mission, Texas. Tickets are $50 which includes a dinner...black tie event too. You should call the office for tix if you are interested (956)585-9724. I think the pageant is sometime next week...anyone know? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Is it the Valley Education or What??
Author: LEARN to SPELL CHECK [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01/17/06 10:07:29am It's sad to see that a lot of people who post on these boards, probably pageant "royalty" and parents, mispell words and use bad grammar. The valley's educational system sucks, but come on.... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Ok, grammar, spelling and punctuation have nothing to do with pageants. What's that all about? Find a literature board if you're so interested in grammatical errors!! (NT) -- :(, 01/18/06 6:24:45am

Subject: Televised Pageant - January 21st - Saturday
Author: YaY! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01/17/06 11:10:41pm Miss America Pageant 2006 on CMT (not sure on time) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: new topics please
Author: *** [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/13/05 10:18:42am Is it okay for girls who compete and win in local valley pageants to leave for college and spend most of their time away from the valley, not really representing their titles at home? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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If they earned it, good for them... there are plenty of queens in the valley who live at home and do nothing with their title -- I don't see how thats any different. -- why not?, 12/13/05 10:55:34am LOL, that is funny but very true. Sad at the same time. If you aren't going to use the title then why compete. (NT) -- let someone more deserving win, 12/13/05 12:47:58pm No offense to winners who are away at college, but why can't they compete there and give other girls a chance too! Seems like a resume booster. (NT) -- questionable, 12/13/05 3:56:30pm Re: No offense to winners who are away at college, but why can't they compete there and give other girls a chance too! Seems like a resume booster. -- mom, 01/15/06 9:40:43pm

Subject: A great write-up Today on Alyssa Chapa in the Valley Life section of the Monitor
Author: Alyssa has won 3 titles in 9 months-first Hispanic young lady from our great RGV to do this! You go Alyssa! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01/ 8/06 6:58:40pm Miss South Texas All American-Starz Production Miss Texas Coed- Miss National Anerican Coed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Time to Update this Board
Author: STX Reader [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01/ 6/06 8:36:21pm Time to update this board...same old, same old....let update for a fresh start this New Year! STX Fan [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: whats the next pageant ?
Author: new subject [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/25/05 6:36:57pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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UPCOMING PAGEANT -- QUEEN, 12/26/05 4:55:20pm Yep! This is a fun one, you all will love it, I know I did :) (NT) -- former queen, 12/28/05 12:13:44pm

Subject: Calling on all Experienced in Pageantry
Author: Click In - MOD [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/29/05 11:32:46am Since being in pageants myself, I know it's hard to find really good pagent coaches, photographers, make up artists, dress makers or shops, shoes, etc., in the valley. It is a fierce industry and I think it would be great for those interested in pageant or those already in pageants to share experiences. Thanks. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Make-Up Suggestions -- satisfied customer, 11/29/05 3:30:47pm Albert is AWESOME! (NT) -- price is no issue when it comes to my hair/makeup, 11/29/05 11:29:12pm For Dresses : Lauren Yvana is the best , you get very special attention from Miss Yoli and Miss Adela, they are the best...Miss Yoli does coaching for different pageants, She has the most experienced in coaching than anyone in the valley. She has been involved in many diffrent systems and works very well with girls. -- Faithfull Customer, 12/19/05 9:09:00pm I AGREE!!!! LAUREN YVANA LTD. is a great place to go for all your pageant needs.She has big dreams and thinks big. Miss Yoli has big plans for the Rio Grande Valley concerning the pageant industry. She has recently sold her adult daycare and is going to focus on the store and bringing the very best to the women of the valley. -- Loyal customer, 12/19/05 10:12:57pm Wow...they sound really great! But are they pricey? I went shopping at Glitz and everything was really expensive...but I guess it's an investment you have to make?? (NT) -- Just curious, 12/20/05 1:12:20pm Glitz & Glamour are pretty good. They have stunning gowns, and the price is reasonable for what you're getting. Plus they have very friendly and knowledgeable staff! My pick. (NT) -- :), 12/21/05 6:47:45am There are several trainers in the Valley, and they are all good in their own way. It's not a matter of who's done what or who's the dinousur in the business, it's about what they can bring out in you. It's about who you feel comfortable with. Experience doesn't matter here, it's what they do to make you better. All of our coaches are AWESOME, and we are lucky to have so many in the Valley! (NT) -- Contestant, 12/21/05 6:54:22am Lauren Yvana 's prices are very reasonable, I have been there several times and have purchased from them. I always get the best price ever. They have gowns from $99.00 to $3,000.00 ..... I am positive you will find what you are looking for with them.. And on training , you are correct , We do have several coaches in the valley and for that we should be greatful, but SORRY, you are wrong because experience does count . IT MATTERS ALOT TO THOSE WHO CARE TO GET THE BEST......... -- LIKES THE BEST OF EVERYTHING......, 12/24/05 11:27:16pm

Subject: Hey Pageant Fans...What do you want for Christmas?
Author: World Peace [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/24/05 10:14:25am Time to have a little festive fun and make your Christmas wish known...who knows...Santa may make it come true! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: BREAKING NEWS
Author: WOW [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/13/05 1:26:35pm NATALIE BELL IS NO LONGER MISS TEXAS GALAXY! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas_Galaxy_Pageants Effective immediately Ashley Thomas will resume the duties of Miss Texas Galaxy 2006. Galaxy International, Texas Galaxy, the Diamond Group and it's affiliates do not promote under age drinking nor will it ever be tolerated for any titleholder to be drinking while making an official appearances wearing a Galaxy Crown and Banner. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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wow!!!! what happened??? let everyone know please!! (NT) -- I hope Natalie is okay!, 12/13/05 3:17:31pm what kind of event was she at that she was drinking? How stupid of her! (NT) -- she should know better!, 12/13/05 3:54:26pm What A Shame -- How Could She?, 12/13/05 4:32:08pm

Subject: MISS TEXAS GALAXY 2006
Author: ! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/13/05 2:42:43pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Why doesn't anybody host a Miss America Prelim in South Texas?
Author: MAO Girl [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/11/05 10:04:11pm We need the representation at the televised state pageant. Come on ladies... I know there is talent in the Valley. www.misstexas.org [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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don't you think there are a lot of pageants already in the valley? I mean there are titles galore and it takes like a good 10 minutes sometimes to recognize royalty who attend pageants! (NT) -- Just an opinion, 12/11/05 10:49:58pm

Subject: Reception for Alyssa
Author: Saturday 12/3 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/ 5/05 5:18:19pm Just wanted to let everyone know that the reception on Saturday was very, very nice that was held at Kelly's Centerstage. So many nice words said about Alyssa's new title...so happy for her....Congrats once again to Alyssa! For those that didn't make it...you missed a very nice reception and great delicious food! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Reception for Alyssa -- Who got invited? Seems like alot of people were not invited nor notified where it was to be held., 12/ 5/05 7:32:51pm I know..it only seemed as if you were in the know you could attend, anyone have any pics? (NT) -- oh well, 12/ 5/05 7:59:52pm If you saw it posted on the 197825 why didn�t you call STARZ or Alyssa and find out about it. HELLO, these boards are no secret. Also, if it was posted on the board it had to have been posted for others to see and attend. (NT) -- don�t be petty, 12/ 7/05 10:47:41am Re: Reception for Alyssa -- queen and friend, 12/ 5/05 9:25:57pm Re: Reception for Alyssa -- Whoever posted about the reception should have told Starz Prod. and let it be an open invitation. We should not have to go hunt down where or when. If so many read this, then this would have been the perfect place to post., 12/ 6/05 2:51:27am Yeah it should've been publicly announced but I'm sure they didn't want everyone and their mother showing up due to food and space constraints. (NT) -- Awesome Alyssa!, 12/ 6/05 10:32:22am

Subject: Reputation should be factored in when judging, I think,...apparently on the other voy board it seems that the "rae" of sunshine isn't all that liked, maybe she doesn't deserve all the limelight of being a queen with such a bad personality
Author: what a disappointment [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/ 2/05 8:55:12pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Reputations will be biased based on whom you ask! (NT) -- Hello!, 12/ 2/05 11:22:43pm It's hard to believe that there is so much dislike toward one person, this really does affect how she is perceived by others that do not know her at all (NT) -- Just an observation - Give the girl a chance, 12/ 5/05 4:10:48pm Re: Reputation should be factored in when judging, I think,...apparently on the other voy board it seems that the "rae" of sunshine isn't all that liked, maybe she doesn't deserve all the limelight of being a queen with such a bad personality -- curios, 12/ 5/05 9:17:00pm Re: Reputation should be factored in when judging, I think,...apparently on the other voy board it seems that the "rae" of sunshine isn't all that liked, maybe she doesn't deserve all the limelight of being a queen with such a bad personality -- Let it rest.....she is a nice person and deserves every crown she has., 12/ 6/05 2:53:09am probably referring to what happened on the other voy board with V.S. (NT) -- just assuming, 12/ 5/05 9:48:51pm obviously the person who posted this has never been a judge. that has to be the dumbest thing i've read today. (NT) -- jmo, 12/ 5/05 9:58:15pm Has anyone else noticed how all this works?? Lately there have been two queens talked about on both voy boards each with completely opposite responses, one negative and one very positive...so there must be a connection to why this is happening and sadly, maybe she just is not a nice person or there would have been the same respect for her by "winning the hardest valley pageants" as there was for Alyssa (NT) -- Catch my Drift??, 12/ 6/05 10:29:24am

Subject: Reception
Author: It was on Voy 197825 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/ 5/05 8:43:12pm Didn't you see it there? Seems like it was a general invite for all! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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photos posted on 197825 (NT) -- check them out, 12/ 5/05 10:25:32pm

Subject: There should be a pageant for the RGV that carries talent as a portion of the score. That would be awesome and more entertaining that some cheesy paid entertainment.
Author: What do you think? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/30/05 8:01:51pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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talent is offered in some valley pageants. they are optional competitions and are judged by a different panal of judges. (NT) -- platinum lets the winners perform during the actual pageant, 11/30/05 8:11:19pm I think talent is hard to judge so it is not really used. How can you compare singing to tap dance? (NT) -- Great for entertainment, but not good for scoring., 11/30/05 8:18:39pm MAO uses talent as a portion fo their scoring. (NT) -- interesting system, 11/30/05 8:26:42pm Re: I think talent is hard to judge so it is not really used. How can you compare singing to tap dance? -- judge, 12/ 5/05 9:20:11pm Also I'm sure that audience appreciation is factored in too?? Kelly's Center Stage hosts recitals in December and May with really good shows(dance and cheer) for anyone that likes talent performances. (NT) -- Just some FYI for you all :), 12/ 5/05 9:45:39pm

Subject: Holiday Charity

Author:
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Date Posted: 12/ 2/05 5:58:40pm

Starz Production Queens are on the go supporting the pageant motto of "Obtaining a Passion to help the less fortunate". More Contributions for Katrina victims, The Lighting of the Arroyo in Harlingen assisting Santa by passing candy to children and working with the Operation Noel project. Great job girls! Congratulations on your hearts full of compassion. Our director is doing an awesome job in getting us involved.

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Subject: HOLIDAY PARADE SCHEDULE
Author: sharing info [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12/ 1/05 10:28:18pm Friday, December 2 Harlingen--7 p.m. South Padre Island--6:30 p.m. Weslaco--6 p.m. Mc Allen--7 p.m. Saturday, December 3 Edinburg Sunday, December 4 Hidalgo Monday, December Brownsville--7 p.m. Saturday, December 10 La Feria--5:30 p.m. San Benito--6 p.m. Not sure on dates... Donna Raymondville [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Since the Holidays are here...what kind of charity work are queens and systems working toward? How about the Wonderland Parade in McAllen..anyone doing that?
Author: Just curious, keep posted [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/29/05 11:15:30am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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when is the parade? (NT) -- date please, 11/29/05 11:30:32am MidValley Lighted Christmas Parade 6p.m. 12/02/2005 in Weslaco, down Texas Blvd (NT) -- Fun Holiday Times, 11/29/05 1:44:14pm Re: MidValley Lighted Christmas Parade 6p.m. 12/02/2005 in Weslaco, down Texas Blvd (NT) -- La Feria Christmas Parade is on the 11th I believe., 11/30/05 4:24:08am la feria christmas parade is december 10th (NT) -- that's a saturday, 11/30/05 6:51:04am Harlingen Christmas Parade is the same day as Weslaco Parade. (NT) -- who will be in what parades?, 11/30/05 8:28:16am City of Edinburg Christmas Parade is Saturday, December 3, 2005 (NT) -- cool, 11/30/05 8:05:09am Hidalgo Christams Parade is Sunday, December 4th (NT) -- cool, 11/30/05 8:06:50am Candlelight Posada Parade is Friday, Dec. 2nd at 7:00 p.m. Down Main Street to Archer Park (NT) -- McAllen, 11/30/05 8:54:51am This Parade is So Nice! (NT) -- Thanks for sharing the date and time, couldn't find it at all, 11/30/05 11:13:03am looks like a busy weekend of parades. (NT) -- should be fun, 11/30/05 9:03:23am

Subject: LOOK WHAT HAPPENED
Author: - [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/29/05 7:15:37pm I see the invasion thread got deleted! Thank goodness, all that was uncalled for! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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let it be a lesson....keep offensive "just joking" comments to yourselves and you won't be put on the hot seat (NT) -- no excuses, 11/29/05 11:01:43pm here is another lesson---don't be posting comments on message boards that weren't your business in the first place. (NT) -- !, 11/29/05 11:28:05pm

Subject: WONDERING
Author: curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/28/05 8:29:42pm does anyone else wonder about who the MOD of this voy is and the MOD of www.voy.com/197825/ MOD-what is your affiliation to pageantry? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What for? -- No need for it, 11/29/05 11:01:49am

Subject: Miss Pharr Pageant - courtesy of The Monitor
Author: Congrats [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/28/05 11:34:18am http://olive.themonitor.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=TVRSLzIwMDUvMTEvMjcjQXIwNjQwMQ==&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Alyssa Chapa crowned at Nat'ls in Florida
Author: Way To Go [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/27/05 7:40:27am Congrats to Alyssa Chapa for being crowned at Nationals which was held Nov. 21-26 at Florida! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: SPECIAL TO THE MONITOR - THURSDAY
Author: PROUD FAN [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/25/05 12:16:24am check out the "What's Up" section (3D) of The Monitor..write up on the Miss Texas Teen USA contestants! Good luck! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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is it available online (NT) -- ?, 11/25/05 12:21:59am Try This, not sure if it will work -- Good Reading, 11/25/05 12:45:02am Re: Try This, not sure if it will work -- oops, 11/25/05 12:55:45am

Subject: Miss Hidalgo County Double Pageant
Author: FAN [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/24/05 11:50:15pm Miss Hidalgo County Double Pageant Sunday, December 18, 2005 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Because....
Author: mod [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/24/05 11:41:05pm New Forum's Mission = to allow opinions, comments, compliments, congrats, pics and everything else to be said in a context that is not as strict as the other one. Do not get the wrong impression that this was made so people could bash other people....not the point....let's just see how it goes. Thanks. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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i guess we'll see how this one goes. the other board does not seem strict at all. (NT) -- spread the word, 11/24/05 11:43:23pm

Subject: Let's Begin
Author: RGV_Pageant_Watch [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11/24/05 11:34:45pm Let's hear what you have to say....comments, compliments, pictures, whatever....just say it! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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what's wrong with the other board? why start a new one? (NT) -- just wondering, 11/24/05 11:36:26pm

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