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Date Posted: 20:28:13 12/09/08 Tue
Author: DZR
Author Host/IP: 62.240.244.114
Subject: Sartre was short and really ugly!
In reply to: Gabs 's message, "Your dates sound awesome!" on 19:23:08 12/09/08 Tue

Good novelist and playwright, not so hot a philosopher IMHO. And they had kinda an icky relationship -- you know they adopted at least one of their joint mistresses? He may have known exactly what it meant to describe a relationship as being like Sartre and de Beauvoir, and it might not be quite as nice or romantic as you thought. There was something distinctly ugly about their relationship, the openness of it and they way they treated their conquests. If you want a little break from your studies here are some links:

A shorter piece in The Literary Review:
http://www.literaryreview.co.uk/tindall_04_08.html

A longer piece, but better, in The New Yorker:
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/09/26/050926crbo_books

That said, I think if someone says outright that they don't want a relationship it's not really fair to then claim they led you on. He's twenty, right? I wouldn't have wanted a girlfriend when I was twenty either (I'm not so sure whether I want one now).

As for the date, I love going to concerts and the movies, but not for a first date. I want to be able to talk to the person and get to know them, although in this last instance less talking would have been preferable!

I picked up the tab because she earns a lot less than me and it only seemed fair. If someone earned more or less the same as me I wouldn't necessarily pay for the whole thing.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> No, I think we both knew. -- Gabs, 21:03:09 12/09/08 Tue [1] (85.3.139.28)

We initially bonded over philosophy and literature (we both preferred Camus to Sartre actually). S and B's relationship was something we'd discussed before and we admitted to being curious about open relationships. It's partly why I feel somewhat led on, he'd say one thing and then another. Like I said, mixed signals.

I don't know how it was waaaay back in your day but plenty of 20 year olds have relationships nowadays! ;p

Sounds like your second dates are fun as well. :)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Cheeky sod! -- DZR, 21:49:00 12/09/08 Tue [1] (82.132.136.213)

Ok, point taken, 20 year olds also have relationships. I may be seeing my own past through present day more cynical lenses.

I can see how some aspects of S & Bs' relationship are appealing, but the more I've found out about those two the more they repulse me.


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