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• I would also like to add that I would like for them to either be full glitz or all natural, I don't like the in between glitz or hobby glitz pageants because I can never figure out what there looking for. (NT) -- We love glitz but doing all of these really big pageants is burning me out and my daughter is now getting into tons of other activities, and I know there are several of you that feel the same., 16:54:59 08/02/06 Wed
  • g&w has both glitz and natural so why say you don't like that and use them for example. seen very natural kids beat glitz at hers. (NT) -- No name, 06:01:24 08/03/06 Thu
    • If you'll read a little bit slower you might see that it says she likes natural and glitz but not the in between like hobby glitz! (NT) -- No name, 11:03:47 08/03/06 Thu
      • READ AGAIN. THE REPLY. IT SAYS EITHER TOTAL GLITZ OR TOTAL NATURAL. I GUESS PEOPLE ARESUPPOSED TO WAKE UP ONE DAY AND BE TOTAL GLITZ. IT TAKES TIME AND PRACTICE. (NT) -- No name, 11:31:54 08/03/06 Thu
• I agree with you on all points. Occasionally we like to go to big Nationals, but it would be nice to have some good local, low cost pageants where we can go to just have fun. I also agree about being totally glitz or totally natural. And once again, I agree that G&W is a great little system. Maybe you & I would be great friends. LOL (NT) -- Another Mom, 17:32:50 08/02/06 Wed
• We love G&W.We like to do locals more to.Once in a while big ones.Great idea. -- No name, 17:58:33 08/02/06 Wed
• I held the NAA state pageant with extremely reasonable entry fees, gave away 2 tv's and custom crowns. I had 7 wonderful contestants, but need 15 to break even. I was told by many PM's that they don't trust new systems b/c they've been burned before. So while you're idea is wonderful (and we would attend), you had better be prepared to lose money. (NT) -- Sheryl, 19:17:55 08/02/06 Wed
  • Oh and I agree with the other poster, natural or full glitz, pick one and stick to the rules you set. (NT) -- No name, 19:19:39 08/02/06 Wed
    • Is G&W glitz or natural? (NT) -- No name, 19:58:09 08/02/06 Wed
      • Glitz. (NT) -- No name, 21:39:59 08/02/06 Wed
      • bull both win at hers. seen it time and time again. (NT) -- No name, 06:02:27 08/03/06 Thu
        • so you think she would tell someone because she has flowergirl dress that she can't compete. i think not $$$$. as any director would not. seen them win on more than one occasion there too. but who cares. they should be able to compete where they want. so don't say she doesn't have both though. (NT) -- No name, 06:21:58 08/03/06 Thu
          • You don't have to be a smartmouth.Her state is glitz!At pre-lims anything goes.She does use glitz judges.Her pageant is 50% facial beauty.And personality is a must.That's why either can do good.It is a glitz system though but it is a face/personality pageant. (NT) -- No need to get ugly., 08:49:17 08/03/06 Thu
            • no one was being smart. just that you can not tell someone they can't compete if they are natural. and if they beat glitz then they worked hard for it. i am sure every system has had some natural kid that just came in with the great personality and a pretty face and win. you can't tell them they can't compete. (NT) -- No name, 09:18:54 08/03/06 Thu
              • She will not tell anyone they cannot compete but she will tell you that she uses glitz judges.When I asked her about tanning,ect. at any of her pageants she said yes.Glitz judges. (NT) -- No name, 14:42:54 08/04/06 Fri
            • AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRELIMS. READ THE ORIGINAL POST! (NT) -- No name, 09:23:20 08/03/06 Thu
  • We honestly wanted to come to NAA, but there was a scheduling conflict. I hope you will continue with it for the next year. As a matter of fact, will you be having any prelims? (NT) -- No name, 23:07:13 08/02/06 Wed
• Re: Guys I don't know about you but i'm ready for some local pageants to start coming back into play! -- No name, 05:56:59 08/03/06 Thu
  • There are tons of prelims all over. Keep looking everyweekend prob at least 2. They are everywhere! -- No name, 06:05:37 08/03/06 Thu
    • they should have a catagory for best hair and make up by a "mother" and try to promote these moms that go and have fun with their daughters. Moms dont get enough credit, for choosing, buying, making ooc's and for hauling the girls all over the place. I'd love to see one like that -- No name, 08:43:06 08/03/06 Thu
      • I AGREE totally ! Mommy h/m division !!! -- No name, 19:50:38 08/04/06 Fri
• My daughter loves the smaller fun pageants, there are a couple here in the upstate, Tammy Jackson has a fun system with a pageant every month, called carolina angels . More like hers woudld be great. (NT) -- No name, 08:34:43 08/03/06 Thu
  • What's the website address or email address for Carolina Angels? (NT) -- No name, 23:11:39 08/06/06 Sun
    • tjacks78@bellsouth.net Please tell her that TBC refered you please (NT) -- Tina, 20:07:20 08/07/06 Mon
• I love the local pageants too but some of the directors need to give better gifts I am sick and tired of these stupid little toys that are not age appropriate at all!! (NT) -- No name, 08:49:49 08/03/06 Thu
• I meant even at a local we spend around $100 or close to it on a pageant and we walk out with some crappy things, give nice decent crowns and trophies even if they are not big and I think that would be better then dollar tree toys!! (NT) -- No name, 08:51:33 08/03/06 Thu
  • i have not been to too many pageants and gotten dollar tree crap. where have you been. most prelims these days you get more than alot of state pageants. (NT) -- No name, 09:21:52 08/03/06 Thu
    • That's why we do alot of prelims.Less expensive,more and alot of times better gifts,more covenient to. (NT) -- No name, 14:45:57 08/04/06 Fri
• I hear wonderful things about G& W that is not the pageant I am talking about giving crappy toys b/c i hear they are great with their gifts it is other little local directors that I am talking about and I wish there were more in the Greenville/Anderson area in SC!! (NT) -- No name, 08:53:32 08/03/06 Thu
• DEBRA THE GREEN BOARD IS NOT THE PLACE YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR PAGEANT ADVERTISED. JUST OPENS IT UP TO THE BASHERS OUT THERE. YOU KNOW THEY WILL FIND SOMETHING TO START. IF YOUR TRYING TO HELP HER JUST LET IT SCROLL DOWN THE GREEN BOARD IS BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- No name, 09:32:21 08/03/06 Thu
  • Debra didn't post this, I did, and I haven't been to one of her pageants but several of our friend's have and have loved them. I was just using that as an example so everyone will know what i'm talking about :) We like Debra and hope to go to one of her pageants soon! (NT) -- No name, 11:06:03 08/03/06 Thu
• I love Giggles & Wiggles and Carolina Angels. Tammy & Debra are both great directors. They are very helpful to anyone just starting out too! (NT) -- No name, 10:34:35 08/03/06 Thu
  • there alot of boards out there that would be much safer to advertise for her on. people strictly come on these green boards to gossip and bash. if you are trying to help her out. this is probably not the best board to do it on. thats all i am saying. we too have been to her pageants and like debra as do we tammy. but other people do not or just look for someone to bash on these green boards. (NT) -- No name, 11:37:03 08/03/06 Thu
    • I don't see any advertising. I see a discussion. (NT) -- No name, 05:28:17 08/04/06 Fri
      • ok but don't say we didn't warn you. bashers are ready to pounce i am sure. (NT) -- No name, 05:34:48 08/04/06 Fri
        • Ummmm ok, I hope you and your mouse have a great Friday~! (NT) -- No name, 06:40:38 08/04/06 Fri
          • Excuse us TB we were not trying to take away from you advertising dream dolls on every board there are other pageants besides yours G&W is a good pageant you are such a bit** (NT) -- No name, 06:57:44 08/04/06 Fri
            • Again, there you go talking with your little mouse. This isn't TB anyway. Why so nasty? (NT) -- No name, 07:23:02 08/04/06 Fri
              • Yes it is you TB (NT) -- No name, 07:31:54 08/04/06 Fri
                • Debra Tammy did the same thing to my friend bashed her out of pageants go read it for yourself voy.com/199150/ its down below the washing she did (NT) -- No name, 07:50:11 08/04/06 Fri
                  • Are you completely off your rocker lady? (NT) -- No name, 07:54:30 08/04/06 Fri
                  • just stirring crap as always. i think tammy and debra are friends they used to talk every night. why would she bash her. (NT) -- No name, 12:24:16 08/04/06 Fri
                  • LEAVE YOUR FRIEND OUT OF IT I AM SURE SHE DOES NOT NEED YOU STIRRING UP CRAP FROM A YEAR AGO. SOME FRIEND. (NT) -- No name, 12:26:32 08/04/06 Fri
                • I don't see anyone bashing D.Tammy and her are friends.She's not bashing her.Leave it alone and don't try to start trouble between the two where there is none,please. (NT) -- No name, 14:48:55 08/04/06 Fri
• Its true My dd has gotten better Prize/gifts from prelims than from State pageants (NT) -- No name, 08:56:16 08/04/06 Fri
  • it is frustrating when the prelims are both glitz and natural then the state is all glitz. the style should stay the same at both (NT) -- No name, 08:58:14 08/04/06 Fri
    • That's hard at a face pageant when they don't judge the clothes.At a face even glitz you can win in a flower girl dress. (NT) -- No name, 14:50:51 08/04/06 Fri
      • Forgot to add,it's like that at prelims so that everyone has a fair chance.Think about like this..people are just starting out at prelims but they should still have an equal chance at any title.But it should be told at that prelim what is expected at state. (NT) -- No name, 14:53:51 08/04/06 Fri
• we havent been to g/w yet , thought about gt would boing to her state, We have been to Tammy's and had fun, it would be great if more girls would attend her pageants so they could face more competiion before they do hit the big Glitz . -- it would be great if more girls would attend her pageants so they could face more competiion before they do hit the big Glitz . its a whole differnt world., 09:03:14 08/04/06 Fri
  • I understand but my expereince has been that when the competitive glitz girls show up at locals they get bashed. -- No name, 11:38:14 08/04/06 Fri
• It would be great if at preliims they would tell that the State woud be different -- when my dd started we didnt know that and she was crushed by the comption, we had no idea, 18:08:45 08/04/06 Fri
  • That's what I said in my post.All prelims should explain exactly what they will be like at state.They should state what is expected,tan,makeup,hair,ect. -- No name, 18:22:13 08/04/06 Fri
    • Another thing that blew us away that first state was , Pro-Am vs.Modeling, doesnt seem to me that they should compet against each other. they are so different -- No name, 18:40:35 08/04/06 Fri
      • I'm with you.Totally diff.Idon't think they can be compared.I think pro-am shouldn't be a part of your score used for your placement.Make it a seperate competition. -- No name, 18:49:56 08/04/06 Fri
        • pro- am is more of a talent.. it is not modling, and especialy not in a face pageant, -- you cant see their faces and when you do they are doing that fake mouth open smile thing, 20:06:31 08/04/06 Fri
          • many pageants are not having proam anymore. Dream Dolls no longer has it except as an exhibition event. not counted -- No name, 16:24:19 08/06/06 Sun
            • Love Love Love the pro-am! My dd loves doing it & it's fun to watch!! -- No name, 18:07:18 08/06/06 Sun
            • way to go dream dolls, pro am is fake and looks like pre stripper practice -- they pull off part of their clothes.like a boa, wheres the Pole?, 04:17:46 08/07/06 Mon
              • I watched a dance competition and it was way worse than any proam event I have ever seen!! -- No name, 09:37:42 08/07/06 Mon