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Date Posted: 17:24:10 11/07/09 Sat
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Re: So who are you actually talking about?
In reply to: 's message, "So who are you actually talking about?" on 11:14:14 11/06/09 Fri

>There are several pageant directors with kids in
>pageants. So are you picking on someone because it's
>not an uncommon thing to have people trade services,
>like hello, help each other out, i see no unfairness.
>Didnt we have this discussion before? If you think the
>pageants here in Michigan are full of crap or a
>person, which i tihnk you are talking about, then go
>down south, there do that all the time. Comps for H/M,
>coaching for clothes, dirctors trading entries because
>their kids love pageants are in for the fun and the
>right reasons. Who cares! It's all in fun and makes
>the kids feel good! So what! We don't need to know
>your problems or issues. Move on and stay out of
>pagents if you cant take it! So if two sports teams
>need to borry equipment that makes them cheaters? Or
>if a footaball team used thier own ref, makes them
>cheaters? Are you kidding me? You need a reality
>check! You know, human beings help each other out so
>so that makes them bad people? WHo thinks like that? I
>think your so upset about a pageant director or
>another contestant and you should consult them and not
>exploit your opinion into non sense!
>Grow up! Get out of pageant if you cant take it!!
agreed. If you can't deal with it or don't like it, move on and stop doing pageants or better yet, start your own pageant system, direct it, and fund it if you think you can do it better. Seriously. No wonder glitz pageants barely exist in Michigan anymore.

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[> [> [> Re: So who are you actually talking about? -- Anonymous, 06:58:56 11/18/09 Wed [1]

I was asked a question and tried to AVOID specifically naming pageant names and STILL get dis'ed! LMAO. I do not own a system, although I would like to in the future, because I want to know and I want my daughter to know shes winning because she GOOD and not because I am bartering services or exchanging favors. Its a little different from sports...duh...a football team is not going to win because I bought the other teams coach a steak dinner. Football is objective and based on touchdowns etc. Pageantry is very subjective and a director can instruct judges on who should win or lose. There is no definitive right or wrong choice. So if football teams all go out to eat together it can't affect the score but directors having dinner and then trading entries and competing in each others systems...sorry not the same. I already KNOW someone will debate this and thats fine...but to the moms reading this and putting out their HARD EARNED money to compete in "Mom and pop" systems...just think about it. I assume your intelligent enough to spend your money wisely. And if your dd has already competed and won it means nothing to me because you could be anybody...even the director or the barter trading other systems director or the directors best friend...posting about it. Just having it in print does not make it so. And yes you could apply the same rule to this but the director has motivation to defend their system where as I just am trying to help you save your money.


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[> [> [> [> Re: So who are you actually talking about? -- Anonymous, 08:26:54 11/18/09 Wed [1]

I'm sorry, I'm confused. Pageants are like a sport, you never know who is going to win, just like you dont know how judges are going to score. You have to practice like a sport and dress the part. I've never heard of pageant judges choosing who they want because of their kids compete in each others systems? SO what! Most pageant directos have kids or have had kids in pageants. I think your trying to make trouble and it's really stupid. You need to get a grip on yourself. If you feel a system is not fair, dont waste YOUR MONEY ON IT and move on to one that you like. From what your saying, you must have heard something, so say it? Who are we talking about then? Share details if you dont want people to NOT GO. I can tell you I'm not a director, just a curious mom of two confused on your comments. If your concerned or want us to know about which systems to avoid, is it based on facts , you have proof of cheaters or are you going by your opinions?


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