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Date Posted: 20:26:23 09/24/06 Sun
Author: Lee Kuan Yew (Look after your own rice bowls)
Subject: Mahathir hits out at MM Lee's comments on Chinese
In reply to: Mahathir Mohammad 's message, "Mahathir hits out at MM Lee's comments on Chinese" on 20:25:19 09/24/06 Sun

alibaba said...
lky - if he applies his own standards to himself, there won't be the lee dynasty in singapore. think about these:

Wife (Ho Ching, Temasek Chief) reports to Husband (PM & Finance Minister

Wife make a wrong investment in Metropolis - got promoted

Wife did it again buying corrupted Thaksin co in Thailand. - no news of being sacked.

Brother-in-law (Singtel CEO) reports to Ho Ching (PM's wife)

Father (MM) reports to son (PM)

Father & son got special discount when buying property from Ong Beng Seng. Discoount not available to general public - bribery is ok with some.

and we could go on.

is this meritocrasy or nepotism?

Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:48:43 PM
malayan union said...
NEXXXTPM said...
malayan union,

this world is no big deal to muslim.

OF COURSE, YOU SAY THE WORLD IS NO BIG DEAL TO YOU BECAUSE YOU PREFER TO BE THE KATAK DI BAWAH TEMPURUNG..THAT IS WHY YOUR BAHLOL UMNO LEADERS PUT PREFER TO PUT STUPID MALAYS IN CHARGE OF STRATEGIC PLACES, UNIVS, IN FACT, EVERYWHERE, INSTEAD OF CAPABLE AND CLEVER CHINESE AND INDIANS...THE RESULT AS EVERYONE CAN SEE OVER THE PAST 37 YEARS...MALAYSIA IS GOING TO THE DOGS AND PIGS...WE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE ZIMBABWE HAVING 10TH CLASS MENTALITY WITH 1ST WORLD INFRASTRUCTURE...YOUR UMNO BAHLOH THINKING IS THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD CAN PROGRESS, BUT WHAT IS THE USE IF MELAYU BECAUSE OF LAZINESS CANNOT KEEP UP AND CHINESE AND INDIANS,PROGRESS
...BETTER TO LET MALAYSIA BECOME BACKWARD SO LONG AS MELAYUS CAN BENEFIT AND BE COMFORTABLE UNDER OUR TEMPURUNG.....

finally, everything will come to an end.

YA IF EVERYTHING COMES TO AN END, WHY DO YOU MELAYUS CONTINUE TO BE JEALOUS OF OTHERS AND FRUSTRATE THEM...IT IS LIKE YOU CANNOT RUN FAST IN RACE, BUT INSTEAD OF TRYING YOU TIE UP THE LEGS OF YOUR OPPONENTS!...THIS IS TYPICAL MELAYU PRASANGKA HASAD DENGKI...FIKIRAN SEMPIT SESUAI NYA DI TEMPURUNG UNTUK KATAK2...

to muslim, building life hereafter is more important.

YOU MUNAFIK...WHY ARE YOU UMNO PEOPLE CONTINUING TO BECOME RICH AND CORRUPT THROUGH PLUNDERING COUNTRY'S RESOURCES....ON ANOTHER LEVEL..WHY A 47 YEAR OLD LIKE DATUK K WANTS TO MARRY A 27-YEAR OLD LIKE SITI NURHALIZA...IF AS YOU SAY YOU PREPARE FOR AFTERLIFE, YOU WOULD NOT DO ALL THE BAD THINGS TO THE CHINESE AND INDIANS...YOU WOULD INSTEAD HELP THEM KNOWING THAT YOUR ALLAH WILL BE PLEASED....LOOKS LIKE YOU PEOPLE PREFER THE COMFORTABLE LIFE IN BOLEHLAND AND SAY TO HELL WITH THE AFTERLIFE...THAT IS WHY I CALL YOU MUNAFIK AGAIN....


that is why there are no competition in wealth in the muslim world. what you see is indivudual's greed.

INDIVIDUAL OR NO INDIVIDUAL YOU CANNNOT HIDE THE FACT THAT THE GREEDY PERSON HERE IS THE MUSLIM.....

you all chinese like to equate success with money and development because that has been your culture. no intention to offend you.

WHAT ABOUT YOU UMNO PEOPLE? YOU ARE CLEARLY FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE OF THE CHINESE...ISN'T THAT YOUR CULTURE TOO...WHY DO YOU UMNO PUTRAS CONTINUE TO PLUNDER OFF THE NATION'W WEALTH...

if you want to compare, please compare apple and apple.

DID YOUR UMNO PEOPLE DO THAT IN SELECTING STUDENTS TO LOCAL UNIVS? YOUR SO-CALLED MERITOCRACY IS NOTHING BUT COMPARING APPLE TO ORANGE...IF YOU COMPARE APPLE TO APPLE, FOLLOW REAL MERITOCRACY...AT BEST ONLY 20% OF MELAYUS CAN GET IN...I AM NOT THE ONE WHO SAYS THIS...IT IS YOUR GREAT MAHATHIR AND WHAT HE SAYS IN THIS CASE IS VERY TRUE......


to the chinese, SURVIVING, STRUGLING, WAR, FIGHTING AMONG CLANS AND SO ON is synonym in your culture because of what happen in the mainland.


THAT IS WHY WE ARE TOUGH AND RESOLUTE,,,WE SURVIVE AGAINST GREAT ODDS...WE SEND OUR CHILDREN TO UNIVS THROUGH OUR BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS..UNLIKE YOU MELAYU PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO BACKBONE..GOVT GIVES YOU ALL THE SCHOLARSHIPS, NEP HELP, ANYTHING UNDER THE SUN...STILL YOU ARE NOT EVEN HALF AS GOOD AS THE CHINESE...YOU GIVE CHINESE HALF OF YOUR PRIVILEGES...THEY WILL SHOW YOU THEY CAN BECOME TWICE AS SUCCESSFUL? BUT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO THAT? NO YOUR UMNO BOSSES PREFER TO MAKE YOU MELAYUS KATAK DI BAWAH TEMPURUNG...LET COUNTRY BECOME BACKWARD SO LONG AS MELAYUS CAN BECOME COMFORTABLE...BUT HOW LONG CAN YOU LAST...ONE DAY ALL RESOURCES OF COUNTRY RUN DRY...BY THEN ALL CHINESE WOULD HAVE LEFT COUNTRY...SO YOU HAVE NO MORE SCAPEGOATS LEFT...THEN THAT WILL BE THE BEST TIME TO SEE HOW YOU MELAYUS WILL REACT....MY BEST BET IS THAT ALL OF YOU WILL COLLAPSE INTO THE SEA...AND HANG TUAH WILL TELL YOU....MELAYU DAH HILANG DI DUNIA....

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SO IT IS NORMAL TO SEE THE SUCCESS OF THE CHINESE WHICH MUST BE EQUATE DUE TO HISTORY THEY HAVE.

YOU CAN BE RICH, MODERN, HAVE HIGH IQ BUT DO NOT BELITLE OTHER RACES ESPECIALLY YOUR COUNTRYMEN. WHAT THE MALAYS ARE DOING WILL BE THE SAME IF YOU ARE IN OUR SHOES.

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what the fuck are you talking about? you melayus have been given all the privileges and help under NEP for more than 30 years and still complain that you cannot succeed? and you have the cheek here to tell me that you can succeed if you are in our shoes..

COME! COME! YOUR GOMEN HAS BENT BACKWARDS MANY TIMES IN TRYING TO PUT YOU INTO OUR SHOES WITH ALL KINDS OF NEP INCENTIVES....AND STILL YOU FAIL!!!!! YOU ARE TYPICAL MUNAFIK! DON'T TALK THROUGH YOUR ARSE!!!! THE WHOLE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!!!

Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:51:41 PM
malayan union said...
commodore said...
Yeah, we need people like TDM, who is brave enuf to speak his own mind.Certainly not AAB who spoke something today and reversed it the very next day.What's wrong with marginalising the chinese here, LKY? You and your mentee (Lim Chong Eu ang Koh soo koon) did even worse to the malays in singapore & penang!, even with limited opportunity (LCE & KSK).I invite all chinese a.k.a pigs to condemn me....kakkakakakkakakkakakkakakakkakakkakakakakkakakkakkakak

Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:03:29 PM

NO COMMODORE.

YOU ARE INSIGNIFICANT. WE JUST LET A ROTTEN BABI HUTAN LIKE YOU CONTINUE TO WALLOW IN HIS OWN SHIT AND URINE IN YOUR PIG STY IN PWTC

Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:54:42 PM
NEXXXTPM said...
meritocracy

if indians are good, how come they cannot develop india?

why are there many poor indians around the world.

so the issue here is not the race it is the individuals.

alibaba,

there are many chinese who are like malays so do there are malays who are like chinese.

i hope u just stop making provocative statement and let we in this blog matures and increase our scope of horizon.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:56:38 PM
melindubuda said...
In all honesty, ethically and morally, shouldn't Lee Kuan Yew and his PAP party apparatus be charged with ETHNIC CLEANSING of the minority Malays?

Didn't they deliberately took over lands once belonged to poor Malays in the name of Compulsory Acquisition and SOCIALIST RE_ENGINEERING and dispersing the Malay population in different corners of Flats and areas.

This is the post-World War 2 subtle form of socialist re-engineering of a minority people; they did this kind of thing in the Balkans, and Eastern Europe in the name of Communism or Socialism; in North West China, Tibet, Mongolia.

And most recently, Howard's Australia policy of Integration smacks of ethnic cleansing in the name of pluralism, and western-Christian-based democracy.

The worst kind was perpetrated by Queen Isabella and Ferdinand against the Moors and Jews.

TDM despite all your faults and aberrations, you are right to denounce this white-shirt-trousers Chinese Socialist Lee Kuan Yew.

LKY is a confused educated chinese unabale to reconcile with his ancestors-&-idol worshiping to the rational arguments of his Western education during a period of Socialism in post WW2 United Kingdom -- Laski, Trokyism, Marxism LSE and the cambridge socialists.
{Remember Harold Wilson, Tony Benn, and the eye-browed once Foreign Secretary -- they went and fought with the Internationale Brigade against Fascist Franco in Spain]

It is about time you Malays open your eyes and understand Occidentalism and their philosophies and the Western-Christianity and MISGUIDED "educated" Chinese confused about ehir origins, identity and prupose of Life --- money and food only paradigm]

Saturday, September 23, 2006 2:12:17 PM
Vindica said...
TDM felt the sting from the small shrimp and where he is now? The land he ruled for 22 years and the legacy he is fighting against, stuck in the political wilderness. Pity him for he has not much time left to undo what he had done. Yes, ABB and the present government was also his legacy which he deeply regretted and he wants to dismantle that. Should all be taken in by his rhetorics and "bogeyman politics?" Why not get down to the real down-to-earth issues that all Malaysians are pretty concern about?

Politicians as we should be aware, are very fond of using "bogeyman politics" to divert the people's attention from vexing issues of their own doing. Though this does not not provide answers or a road map on how to overcome such issues that are on the agenda of many Malaysians, the diversions serves them well as it will somehow get the attention of the citizens and they will put them on the backburner or even better forget all about them. The populace will generally take the clarion call to show nationalistic or race/religious fervour as we have seen countless times throughout local history. That politicians are less concerned with significant domestic issues, and to take the bull by the horns to resolve them can be seen by such so-called "bogeyman politics." While it may be perceived as good politics for the politician's path to higher office and political gain, it does nothing to deal with these significant issues or to suggest a method to enhance the economic opportunities and standard of living that Malaysians want and cherish.

That it is necessary to improve the lives of every citizens and to work collaboratively to improve the business climate which enhances the Rakyat's lives is not the reason for their being in the government. Though there might be disagreement in it's present state, there should be no question that the climate must continually improve in order to be competitive. They lack foresight and the need to understand that the world has changed and that we are in a global economy and time is of the essence. The computer, the Internet and the end of the Cold War have limited if not destroyed the protection that our national and state boundaries once provided. Having land with rich resorces to be milked for personal gains will not ensure the prosperity of the nation nor it's people. In the end the future of coming generations will see the depletion and degeneration of their country. A country that is poor because her citizens were not properly educated and groomed to take over the successes of their forebears who worked their mind and soul for their country's good. A country racked since May 13th with greed and corruption, racial disharmony and a great number being marginalised.

All our policies and philosophies upon which those policies were based must be reviewed and challenged through the prism of this change. Our policymakers must recognize this by placing greater emphasis on education attainment and workforce skills. They must continue to upgrade these but they must also look at significantly reducing the cost of doing business if there is going to be real opportunity. The past practices of their predecessors need to undergo drastic transformation by putting less emphasis on race/religion and more towards one that encompasses all that is more meritocratic. The economic pie must be equally shared amongst all and not just by a few for the younger generations to want to stay on and be part of nation-building.

Now is not the time for classic "bogeyman politics," but the time for real leadership. Political advantage might be gained through this tactic but in the long run the ordinary worker will be shortchanged.

Many including LKY will give credit where credit is due, but I doubt he holds a high regard for TDM, although unlike TDM whose has been reported to utter words "bomb Singapore." Is it becasue Singapore will not retaliate unlike Indonesia and Thailand that it is alright to say such things about a close neighbour? I dare TDM to say the same about Thailand and Indonesia. How about taking over their Thailand's Muslim south as they are not happy being part of Thailand?

By Vindica

Saturday, September 23, 2006 2:13:18 PM
Website - http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-n/2006/09/mahathir-hits-out-at-mm-lees-comments.htm

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