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Date Posted: 05:11:41 01/12/09 Mon
Author: rewhblcain (Bye Bye)
Subject: Re: Cracking down on illegals
In reply to: JMR 's message, "Cracking down on illegals" on 22:03:56 11/23/08 Sun

Great! Send all these freeloading bastards back to those tird world countries!


>Failure to match Social Security numbers could cost
>workers their jobs
>Federal officials want to match Social Security
>numbers
>By Luis F. Perez
>The South Florida Sun Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale),
>November 21, 2008
> >href="http://www.sun-sentinel.com/services/newspaper/pr
>intedition/local/sfl-flbnomatch1121pnnov21,0,4508283.st
>ory">http://www.sun-sentinel.com/services/newspaper/pri
>ntedition/local/sfl-flbnomatch1121pnnov21,0,4508283.sto
>ry
>
>The federal government wants a judge to let it force
>businesses to make sure its workers have legitimate
>Social Security numbers, or fire them.
>
>The so-called 'no-match letter' rule is meant to root
>out immigrants who don't have permission to work here.
>
>But critics say the system for checking is full of
>errors that could wrongly cost American citizens and
>legal residents their jobs, and that requiring
>businesses to enforce it is an undue expense for
>companies. It depends on a flawed Social Security
>Administration database, they say.
>
>Stan Wood, who owns Everglades Botanical Services in
>Davie and has worked with immigrants in agriculture
>businesses most of his life, had a quick answer when
>asked whether the no-match letter program would work:
>'No. Hell no!'
>
>The government estimates 4 percent - or 10 million -
>of about 250 million W-2 forms it receives each year
>have mismatched names and Social Security numbers.
>
>If employers take 'responsible' steps to resolve the
>differences, they face no penalties, according to the
>Department of Homeland Security.
>
>'Essentially, this is kind of an anti-ostrich
>regulation,' Homeland Security Secretary Michael
>Chertoff said recently.
>
>The rule is part of the department's efforts to reduce
>the number of undocumented immigrants working in the
>country, he said.
>
>Homeland Security officials instituted the rule in
>August 2007.
>
>But the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, unions and immigrant
>advocates sued, and a federal judge in California
>blocked the department from enforcing it. In October,
>Homeland Security issued a revised rule and filed a
>motion Nov. 6 asking the judge for permission to
>enforce it.
>
>'I'm an immigrant myself. I and a lot of my friends
>have come through this road. It, frankly, can be a
>bureaucratic nightmare,' said David Semadeni,
>secretary of the Palm Beach County Hotel and Lodging
>Association.
>
>Under the rule, workers named as not having valid
>Social Security numbers would have 90 days to fix any
>mix-up. After that, their employers would have to fire
>them, or face fines or jail time.
>
>'Basically, a no-match letter is a sign that something
>is wrong,' Chertoff said.
>
>There can be innocent explanations for no-match
>letters. For example, a newlywed doesn't tell the
>government of a name change. A typo, a mistaken
>number, a clerk misfiling paperwork.
>
>'This case has never been about illegal workers, it
>has been about the cost of a badly thought-out rule
>and the cost on legitimate businesses following all
>the rules,' said Angelo Amado, the chamber's director
>of immigration policy.
>
>The department's analysis, which the judge asked for,
>shows that as many as 167,000 legitimate workers could
>lose their jobs, he said.
>
>'The no-match rule is a lackluster attempt at
>immigration reform,' said Jim Spratt, a spokesman for
>the Florida Nursery, Growers & Landscape Association.
>'It's not going to fix anything.'
>
>Richard Kern, owner of the 25-employee Southeast
>Growers nursery in Boca Raton and Wellington, opposed
>the rule when it was first proposed. Now, he says,
>things have changed.
>
>'A lot of these guys that didn't have their paperwork
>are back in Mexico now,' he said.
>
>Walter Banks, owner of Fort Lauderdale's Lago Mar
>Resort and Club, said his company works hard to make
>sure his 225 or so employees have the appropriate
>paperwork.
>
>'The spirit of the law, I really have to agree with
>when you look at the big picture, with what it's
>trying to accomplish,' he said.

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