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Date Posted: 03:55:27 03/08/08 Sat
Author: Joan
Author Host/IP: ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net / 68.0.253.131
Subject: The Sabbath
In reply to: Catie 's message, "Re: Joan" on 17:53:00 03/07/08 Fri

I know the history or the Sabbath. Why are you constantly acting like I don't know my own religion--like you're going to "expose" Catholicism for what it "really is"? You think that I don't know my own religion, and if you show me what it is, my eyes will be opened. I know a lot more about Catholicism than you do, even if you think that isn't true. I know that you think the "facts" that you've been taught by anti-Catholic writers and maybe some of your own ministers is the real truth. It's not, however.

How many times do your Catholic friends have to tell you that we don't worship Mary and that priests don't forgive sins, before you believe?

I think you have to ask why you need to believe that we don't know our own religion, and why you think you know better.

Your earlier comment about reading Matt 17. Would I have mentioned it in the first place if I hadn't already read it? :)

I haven't trashed your religion. I haven't said that you beleive this or that, when you don't. I don't claim that you don't know the history or Christianity, though I certainly could! I expect the same respect and honesty toward Catholicism and me in return.

Catie, I think you're almost a recent convert-type. You've found a new, stronger interest in your religion. That's great. But you used to post "Happy Sabbath" on Sunday mornings. Talk about changes! lol

Joan

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The Sabbath -- Catie, 06:01:25 03/08/08 Sat [1] (h122.131.141.67.ip.alltel.net/67.141.131.122)

"Catie, I think you're almost a recent convert-type. You've found a new, stronger interest in your religion. That's great. But you used to post "Happy Sabbath" on Sunday mornings. Talk about changes! lol "

Why do you think I am a recent convert-tye? Where does that come from? I'm 53, when I was 17 I became a Christian, at 18 attended a bible University. I have been hungry to learn about God's word ever since. My "Church" is where I go to enjoy worshiping, but it has nothing to do with my coming here to visit a Catholic forum, as if I've been sent on a mission. Everything I've been taught I have not agreed with. I sought out a lot of things on my own. I've never not been enthusiastic about being a Christian.

If I did in fact post "Happy Sabbath" on a Sunday it was a mistake and would have been only sometime in the past 6 months. I've done several unusual and even incorrrect things since Terry died, because my brain is numb from the loss. I have even forgotten where I'm going when driving down the road more than once. So the post was certainly an error on my part. My frame of mind lately is really not a funny thing to me though.

Obviously when you ask me a question you don't want me to answer it, because when I do you say I am bashing Catholics. Obviously I am not Catholic for a reason. I don't believe the teachings of the church. You knew that I was a protestant when you invited me. I felt it was for the purpose of exchanging ideas. That doesn't mean we have to agree with one another. Which we obviously don't. I never expected we would. Like it or not, History bears out what I say about the Sabbath being changed by the Catholic church: Not a religion, not an opinion, not CNN. It's a fact and if you don't accept that then I can care less. I simply stated the fact. That doesn't make me a Catholic basher when I state facts about any religion.

From your last post obviously I misunderstood your reasoning and have no idea why you did invite me. We both clearly are firm in our stands on religion and I came here knowing that, respecting that, and not expecting to convert anyone, but bouncing back answers to your questions, sharing my thoughts. But from your last post
it's obvious it's a mistake for me to be here. I won't allow myself to be pegged as a "Catholic basher" because I merely speak what I have read throughout the years, and offer up answers to your questions.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The Sabbath -- Joan, 10:26:42 03/08/08 Sat [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

Then let me ask you, When and by whom was the Sabbath changed?

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