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Date Posted: 06:22:20 03/08/08 Sat
Author: Catie
Author Host/IP: h122.131.141.67.ip.alltel.net / 67.141.131.122
Subject: Re: On the claim that celebrating the Lord's Day
In reply to: Joan 's message, "On the claim that celebrating the Lord's Day" on 04:42:18 03/08/08 Sat

"It is ironic that Jesus and His disciples were harassed by the Pharisees over the Sabbath (John 5:18). Jesus spoke out against the Pharisee's merciless observance of the Sabbath (Matt 12:1-8; Luke 13:10-16). Jesus also defended Himself and His disciples on this issue by saying:"
"The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath; so the Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath." [Mark 2:27-28; RSV]. and claiming authority over it. ..."
It is true that the Catholic Church through the authority of Christ replaced the Hebrew Sabbath (Saturday) with the Lord's Day (Sunday);..."

I don't find it ironic at all. Jesus was not a conformist. He came and hung out with the kind of folks the Jewish leaders did not expect a "King" to hang out with. He surprised many folks by what he did. He did in fact do whatever was necessary. But one thing he did do was to keep the Sabbath. Many scriptures bear out the fact he did keep the Sabbath. He said, "I didn't come to change the law, but to Fulfill it." He kept the Sabbath, the commandment GOD wrote with his own finger which said, REMEMBER the sabbath day to keep it holy. The law that was done away with was the law of Moses. That was a law God allowed because of a lack of knowledge on man's part and he was a loving God.

PAUL kept the sabbath. Nothing changed in the diet either, because the portion of Hewbrews where he said do not call unclean the things I call clean was referring to allowing Gentiles to become part of the Gospel and being accepted as Adopted jews.

Why do you assume I have not already read or heard all the information you just posted here? I am fully aware.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: On the claim that celebrating the Lord's Day -- Joan, 10:54:12 03/08/08 Sat [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

I had typed out a long, angry rebuttal. Luckily my brain kick-started itself and forced me to hit delete. :)

Will you stick around?

""It is ironic that Jesus and His disciples were harassed by the Pharisees over the Sabbath"

I think the author meant that it was Ironic that Christians who celebrate the Lord's Day are being harrassed over the Sabbath, when Jesus was, too.

Joan

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Thank you for the invite. -- Catie, 10:23:39 03/09/08 Sun [1] (h122.131.141.67.ip.alltel.net/67.141.131.122)

For now at least, for the sake of friendship and civility, (I tempted you to become irate) it is best I refrain from posting here. It is your forum and I respect that. Perhaps my desire to converse in serious conversations, crossed a line I didn't realize and wasn't intending on doing. Sincere Apologies.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Thank you for the invite. -- Joan, 11:55:21 03/09/08 Sun [1] (ip68-0-253-131.ri.ri.cox.net/68.0.253.131)

No apologies needed, unless they go both ways. :)

I hope you will reconsider and post here. There is no danger of losing friendship over this (or any) topic--not on my part, and I doubt on your part either.

Joan

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