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Date Posted: 19:58:02 10/21/07 Sun
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Just a thought

1) Fallback dates. If they are clearly posted I see no problems here. Not all age groups are the same we all make decisions based on what is best for our child. Same thing here. More pageants than not have a fall back. If you are informed I see no problem.

2) Gifts. I agree you should not have to bring a CONTESTANT gift (ugh). However, as a mom of queen from a national system that really cares about her queens, I like that the director asks the contestants to bring a gift for their outgoing age queen and a gift for on of the overall queens. This way all the girls leave with a huge box of stuff even if they live 10000 miles away and only mom could come watch them give up. People don't really understand how important this really is, for an outgoing queen to get some gifts and feel really appreciated. After all they are leaving a title they really loved. Sad day for them, gifts make it better. JMO

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[> Here's the deal on fallbacks. The contestant it hurts the most is the babies. How would you like your one year old competing with a 2 or 3 year old who can walk alone and model and do cutsie moves? Or a 5 year old falling back on a 3 year old. It's not fair no matter how you look at it. -- Anonymous, 05:27:06 10/22/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> That is true for any group with or without a fallback. It comes down to your child's age when they do the pageant if it's an advantage to you or not. If you are informed of a fallback & you don't like it, don't enter. It doesn't mean the system is bad for it. -- Anonymous, 22:39:56 10/22/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> Yep we do one pageant here and the first year my daughter competed at state the age group was 19-35 Mo with a 30 day fall back my daughter was 21 mo and didnt make the fall back to the 0-18 mo group and little girl who won was almost 3 won the baby supreme, the next year my daughter was almost 3 but still 2 she was in the same age group and she won so like you said even it just depends on weather its a disadvantage or not you can decide weather to do the pageant or not based on that my daughter is now 4 some pageant the supreme group is 0-3 and then 4-9 or 11 and some are 0-4 so we choose the ones we travel for based on whats good for us 0-4 . -- Anonymous, 10:31:08 10/26/07 Fri [1]

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[> I resent having to bring gifts for the DIRECTORS outgoing royalty. We pay enogh in pageant fees, hotel, h/m, door badges ( I will touch on this subject in a moment) and at the door fees we were not informed of. It is the directors resposibility in my opinion. we have been to several pageants where we were told to bring 7-10 gifts wrapped, bagged and labeled for the different o.g. royalty and to bring them to registration or we could not register! I think the directors should find out who is returning to help at the pageant and offer a free hotels stay and a crown that they can wear comfortably and keep after crowning! -- Anonymous, 05:31:06 10/22/07 Mon [1]

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[> I think that if a director really appreciates her retiring queens she will provide gifts for them and not put that burden on her contestants that are trying to gather the money to do their pageant. Not everyone has the money to spare. -- Anonymous, 05:34:24 10/22/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> Directors usually do that also. BUT, it is also nice to have other gifts as well in a farewell box. An age division gift and a supreme gift isn't going to break anyone, but will make 2 little girls quite happy. Giving up a title is important and should be given more repect at pageants. Some pageants don't even acknowledge outgoing queens. We've had it both ways. Trust me, the $5 - $10 in gifts you bring makes a big difference to a kid giving up a title. Don't forget YOUR kid could be in the same spot next year. You would want her to feel special. JMO -- Anonymous, 22:44:08 10/22/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> We already have a rule on this and its not going to change. -- Anonymous, 05:41:20 10/23/07 Tue [1]

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[> [> [> [> That rule is selfish. Sorry, it hurts the girls giving up. Many of your rules are good, some are just silly. -- Anonymous, 12:18:42 10/23/07 Tue [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> I have to disagree with you. These directors charging $600-$800 & up are more than making enough to purchase their own gifts for outgoing royalty. They put their time and effort in to promote the system and the director has made money off them all year in referrals. Let the director buy them a few gifts at the end of the year. -- Anonymous, 12:28:09 10/23/07 Tue [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> We think it is selfish on the directors part not to buy her retireing queen a gift. They are your retireing queens not ours. Why should we have that responsibilty. They paid you to compete not us. You don't think you owe them anything, yet you want them to come back to put in an appearance. -- Anonymous, 12:41:59 10/23/07 Tue [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> We here at PFFP know some of you directors think some of our rules are silly, but we are advocates for the pageant mom. We want them to have every advantage we can get them. Were sorry if you don't like some of our rules but some of the parents may not mind paying for your gifts and still do your pageant. -- Anonymous, 12:52:04 10/23/07 Tue [1]

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[> My dd is a national queen and I would feel guilty is new contestants that have never met her were expected to bring a gift for her. She won loads of prizes when she was crowned last year and has had a ful year of fun during her reign. She is excited about crowning the next girl and looks forward to returning to nationals for the fun and camaraderie. This is what I think is wrong with many pageants. People are losing sight of what it's really about and I think a prize grab looking like Christmas morning is not it. -- Anonymous, 07:33:58 10/22/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> We were just at a pageant saturday and were told to bring 4 nice gifts for og royalty and this years new supremes. We took 2 Barbies and 2Bratz dolls, well we got a 4 pack of genericc playdough back. this is my biggest problem with it, that I went out of my way to make sure that the 4 gifts I bought were perfect for the age divison and what little girl wouldn't love a barbie. But in return my three year old got a package of playdough and a locker mirror, she is 3. -- Anonymous, 06:24:53 10/24/07 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> Please DO NOT post names on this board. This is not a bash board. If you want to start a bash session please take it to a different board. PFFPC -- Anonymous, 21:20:48 10/24/07 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> I don`t see a name in this post. If you are refering to JMO it probably means (just my opinion) -- Anonymous, 07:00:32 10/26/07 Fri [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> The post with the name was removed. -- Anonymous, 08:11:16 10/26/07 Fri [1]

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[> [> [> I dont like that ethier we were at a pageant that had a gift exchange and we brought a gift it was like a 10 dollar gift and the girl my daughter was suppose to exchange with didnt show to the party and my daughter didnt get a gift at all. well the roaylty handed out little gifts so she got stuff so she was happy but I was not lol . Anyway the Dir needs to be clear if gifts are to be brought there should be a min amount on it we always think of the person reciving the gift weather we know them or not and I buy just like I was buying a gift for a good freind and what I think the child may like. I know things can be tight going to a pageant but you need to think of the person who will recieve the gift. -- Anonymous, 10:39:04 10/26/07 Fri [1]

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