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Date Posted: 12:35:23 11/07/07 Wed
Author: part 3
Subject: Re: November 7, 2007
In reply to: part 2 's message, "Re: November 7, 2007" on 12:33:21 11/07/07 Wed

{Schlanger:} Now, this is a question that may get you a
little upset, because you have an image as a conservative. But
what do you say to those who way that MySpace is nothing but a
``digital meat market'' in which people invent identities for
purposes of hooking up for sex?
{``Murdoch'':} Ha-ha-ha... Well! That's obviously a bit of a
stretch. I don't necessarily think that everyone's doing that. I
mean, there's big discussion about, you want to socialize, you
want to meet people that you may not meet. You know, young people
today are very anti-social, so to speak, so this gives them a
chance to express themselves freely. And honestly, I think, part
of the problem is, these days, religion is becoming less and less
effective. And so, people start thinking, ``Well, I don't want
any God or anything controlling my decisions, my emotions.'' And
in the end, what this creates is a condition where people can
decide for themselves, where they can engage in what they like,
and what they dislike, and no one can tell them what to do. I
think that's the real point here.

{Schlanger:} Well, it sounds like you're buying into this
line that it's ``democratic.''
{``Murdoch'':} Oh, definitely. Well, it's even beyond
democracy, or anything. It is, I think--it's globalization to its
extreme. It really does knock down the borders. It creates a
totally free market, in which people can decide what things
they're going to consume, with no one really telling them what to
do.

{Schlanger:} What would you say, you've been listening to
our conversation thus far, and--
{``Murdoch'':} Actually, no, I haven't. I don't really want
to spend my time doing that.

{Schlanger:} Well--so, what would you say to the charge
we've made on this program, that MySpace is really just a
component of psychological warfare against youth, on behalf of a
fascist movement, run by financial oligarchs, such as yourself?
{``Murdoch'':} Well! Y'better watch what you say. Because,
really, it does go back. I mean, you look at Bertrand Russell, I
mean, he's one of my mentors, one of the people that I associated
with, maybe back and forth, in between when I was working for
Lord Beaverbrook during the time of the Nazis and afterwards, and
you know, the idea in the beginning was to have a society where
we could get rid of dictatorships, get rid of government in
general. And y'know, Huxley and Adorno, they had different ideas
on this, and y'know, you want to try to convince people,
basically, that they're making their own decisions. And that the
conclusions they come to are purely their own. So, in effect, as
Huxley said, you create a concentration camp without tears.
I mean, honestly, I think that's where you and your fellows
belong, because, uh, the things that you're doing are not really
useful in this economy, and that's one thing I did want to make
sure that you and anyone else here listening, has a certain
understanding of: that this is not really going to be in
existence much longer.

{Schlanger:} So you actually believe that globalization will
succeed, and that you can induce youth to destroy their own
minds?
{``Murdoch'':} Oh, definitely! I mean this--it's not
something --what is in their minds, is not necessarily anything
that is valuable. I mean! I dunno, we've been monitoring
different things, Harley--we've been watching what you've been
doing, and obviously I think that you should be eating grass--you
and your friends here. Because, y'know, these things are not
necessary any more: We can have one nation. We don't need
nation-states, we don't need any of these things.
Y'know, Bertrand Russell, he had the conception that, as I
said, religion plays a reduced amount of control on the
population, but the media, movies, newspapers, things like that,
are increasing in their ability to help people make decisions on
what they should think. Now, I would put the Internet in that
list, for sure.

{Schlanger:} Well, Sir Rupert, we hope you'll stay on, maybe
Cody and Oyang will have a question for you. But for the moment,
we'd like you to be quiet and sit back and listen.
{``Murdoch'':} Oh yes. Can I get their last name--Cody What?

{Schlanger:} So, Cody, how accurate is this characterization
of Rupert Murdoch, in your thinking?
{Jones:} Yeah, I think it's right on point. It's very clear,
if you look at the figure that was mentioned, Bertrand Russell.
He, himself, had been very explicit about his intention to create
a one-world government, a one-world dictatorship. And Murdoch is
simply an expression of that ideology.

{Schlanger:} And Oyang?
{Teng:} I would agree.

{Schlanger:} Now, when we look at something like what
happened at Virginia Tech, I don't know if you were in the War
Room [the operations center for the LYM] at the time, Oyang, but
there was an effort to bring up this issue of video games. And
one of the things we discovered, is that Bill Gates, and
Microsoft--Gates just pumped some money into Facebook--that Gates
has vested interest in these video games. Oyang, would you say
something on that?

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{Teng:} We'd done some work looking at the financial control
over the whole video-game apparatus, they made a big deal about
the fact that it's surpassed movies in terms of gross sales
worldwide and in the United States, and so forth. So what you
find, when you begin to look at the control, the financial
control of things that people think are just part of their
culture, part of the youth culture, something that's their own,
actually you find that it only exists to the degree that it's
been financed, supported, funded, and created by hedge funds, by
the biggest financial players in the world. And Gates plays into
this thing.
There was a famous kind of movie clip circulating, which you
can find online, which shows him actually entering one of his own
games, Doom, and blowing away a couple of the demons in Doom, as
part of a promotional package for Microsoft.
So, these guys, a lot of them, someone like Gates probably
believe some of their own propaganda about the wonders of virtual
reality. And I don't know if Gates quite fits into the category
of top oligarch in the world, but one of the problems with these
guys, is that they are--actually because of inbreeding, and maybe
inbreeding through Internet chatrooms, and other things, they
have actually reduced the quality of the gene pool among the
oligarchy: So these guys are not too bright. And actually, you
can see that in the fact that their financial system is
collapsing.
{``Murdoch'':} No, no. No, it's not. Actually, if you look
at the Dow Jones, and the {Wall Street Journal}, you can see
clearly that it's not collapsing. That's a lie.

{Schlanger:} Now, Cody, let me ask you a question on this:
Because we talk to a lot of people, who argue that MySpace is
just a way of communicating, a way of staying in touch with their
friends--
{Jones:} That's right.

{Schlanger:} When you run into somebody who says that, how
do you answer them?
{Jones:} Well, first off, you have to ask them, what they're
communicating? To differentiate between exchanging information
and trying to find a way to exchange bodily fluids, and actually
communicating ideas. And that's effectively what MySpace is: It's
just a way for people to avoid reality, and avoid discussion of
ideas, and sort of let their inhibitions run wild.
So, the best way to do it, is to make fun of it. I don't
think anyone, if you really corner them, can seriously say that
MySpace is a means of ``communicating profound ideas respecting
man and nature.''

{Schlanger:} Well, I've heard people say that fascism, the
essence of fascism, is trying to stop people from getting on
MySpace. Why would someone say something like that?
{Jones:} Well, that's part of the brainwashing. If you look
at the history of, say, the fascist movement in Germany, it came
out of the cabaret movement, which was a real free sex, sex with
anything that moves, pure decadence.
{Schlanger:} It was a counterculture.
{Jones:} Yeah, the counterculture. And that's what then
spawned the fascist movement in Germany in particular. Now, it
was out of those same networks, that the people came that then
produced that counterculture which is now the essence of the
current MySpace. What goes on there, that's what it is, you're
free from any constraints of physical reality. You can be a
pedophile, you can be rapist, you can be a killer, you can be a
dope smoker, you can do whatever you want, free of the
constraints of reality and morality, and physical economy, etc.
And so, it is the basis of a fascist movement, as LaRouche
pointed out: Because when you get someone in that fantasy state,
if all of a sudden you pull the plug--the lights go out, the
power goes down, because we haven't invested--you're going to
have a bunch of enraged, homicidal killers.

{Schlanger:} Who know how to kill now, because they've been
on these video games.
Now, I'm going to read you a quote from someone who claims
to be a very successful practitioner of MySpace. This is from a
profile on MySpace in {Vanity Fair}. This guy says: ``I know guys
who are not even as good-looking as me, who get laid like crazy
because of MySpace. I'm actually shy. There are women I wouldn't
go up to at a club, but I'll email them on MySpace. For some
reason, you get on there, and all the barriers come down. Girls
will say things, they'd never say to you in public. And there's
the mystery element, the intangible thing. `Is he real?' It makes
them want you more.''
I mean, a part of this is just an unleashing of the fantasy
and libidos, exactly as Aldous Huxley described in his {Brave New
World}, huh? Oyang, you want to comment?
{Teng:} Yeah, and of course, the way that people now learn
economics, or whether it's through school or just what they're
getting from popular culture, is that the fundamental driver for
economics, today, is your libido, anyway. [Schlanger laughs] So
if you have access to more, I think as that guy's quoted, ``more
ass'' than ever before, then really you're playing a
fundamentally important role in the economy. That's the
rationale.

{Schlanger:} Right, right. Now, we brought up this question
of the interface of news, sports, and entertainment. Of course,
Sir Rupert, that's what you're doing with Fox, right?
{``Murdoch'':} Oh right, definitely. Y'know, the way I see
it, you've got a certain amount of time, people have time. And
more and more, increasingly, people have more time, because
there's not that many jobs. So, one of the things is, you can
monopolize their time: You've got iPods, you've got the Internet,
you can actually purchase that, and try to take that away,
y'know, advertise to them the entire time. That's what you can do
in sports, you can do that with sex, everything. It works very
well.
And the thing I think you guys are all wrong on, is that you
see it as bad. Because, honestly, I see this is definitely, this
is what people want. I'm just providing them with what they want
themselves.

{Schlanger:} So, people want to live fantasy lives.
{``Murdoch'':} Definitely.

{Schlanger:} Isn't that the whole purpose of virtual
reality? Cody, you were talking about this earlier, in terms of
the attempt to free from the sense of responsibility about
society. If you're trapped in a fantasy-world 24 hours a days,
you can see the auto industry close down, houses being
foreclosed, banks collapsing, but you're still online in your
fantasy--until you can no longer pay the electric bill. So, isn't
that basically what we're talking about?
{Jones:} Yeah, absolutely. I mean, part of it, is that if
you look at people's entire education, the way they're raised,
and then the economy that they develop in, they grew up in a
world where the idea of being able to intervene to change a
reality which they may not like, has been robbed from them: The
sense of the human intervention into reality to change it for the
better, has been taken away. And that would otherwise potentially
create frustration, revolt, etc., so then that's pacified through
presenting them, ``Well, here's your alternative. You can't
actually change the world, but what you can do, is you can change
reality through the Internet, through these kind of MySpace
fantasies, etc.'' So it becomes a way to--it really is a
concentration camp of the mind, ``without tears.''
{Teng:} I want to say something, too. Because, people
probably know that LaRouchePAC, we've got a website, which our
intent may be a little ways off, but it's to take over the
Internet with reason. But the key to the effectiveness of our
website, versus say, something like MoveOn.org, is that our
website is effective and active because it's based on what we're
doing as a movement in real life, on the ground, around the
world. And it functions to actually further and deepen the
dialogue around the actual strategic nature of the situation
we're in. As opposed to just throwing up a website, and saying,
``Well, if we can get X number of people on, and somehow aware,
then that is going to magically create the kind of mass,
spontaneous social change that's needed.''
And that's really no different than the mentality, the
ideology behind the free market, which is that you've got this
mysterious Invisible Hand, which is going to somehow regulate the
universe. And more often than not, as we've pointed out to
people, it ends up spanking people. And it's part of the whole
idea that you give up any kind commitment to responsibility for
the direction society goes.

{Schlanger:} Well, you know, they say that Bush said to
Greenspan, ``Is that the Invisible Hand in your pocket, or are
you just happy to see me?'' [laughter]
Well, you know, what we keep coming back to then, is this
question of human interaction, as opposed to people on a process
of self-discovery in virtual reality. Which, of course, is not a
process of self-discovery, it's a process of self-masturbation.
Now, I want to get back to this question of real discovery
then, as the counter. Because I hope we get some people to listen
to this program, and if you're listening to it, you can tell your
friends to get on it, and it's archived at
http://www.larouchepub.com/radio/archive_2007.html. And we intend
to follow this through: We're going to continue a campaign, we
may be putting out a pamphlet, titled, ``Is Goebbels in Your
Laptop?,'' because this is an important issue.
But we also have to present the solution, and this is where
it gets a little more difficult. But both of you have been
involved in the choral work, you're involved in the science work,
What is it that is the counter for someone who's looking for
identity in a phony, made-up identity posted on MySpace, or the
sense of power you get from massive kills in a video-game: What's
the counter to that?
{Jones:} Well, the counter to that, is primarily the work
that's being done, in the Virginia area, in the Leesburg area;
our of the Basement, and also the music work. Where, what you
find, and this is the principle that Leibniz had brought up, it's
the principle upon which our nation is founded, which is that
real human happiness is derived through discovery of principle,
and the communication of those discoveries to other human beings.
Developing a sense of immortality, through discovery and through
passing on a greater potential to the next generation, that
that's what lives beyond you.
And so this is what we're doing, is reviving the arc of
development of that process of discovery, and the history of
creativity on planet Earth.
{``Murdoch'':} Listen, listen! You're making me sick, over
here, with what you're saying! This is the most stupid thing I've
ever heard! You're trying to say that ideas have some kind of
effect on society, or on history [laughing], this is
childishness.
Listen, let's put Harley aside here. Let's look at the
facts: You guys are young, you're bright, why don't you guys come
back into college? Get a degree, I can even help you out, and you
guys get into something where you can actually change something.
Because really, working with this, doing these discussions,
singing, these things are going to have {no} effect, and
actually, I think I've done with this! [hangs up]

{Schlanger:} I think we just lost Sir Rupert. He's probably
going to go play with his mouse.
Oyang, we have a question that was emailed in on the MySpace
and the Presidential campaigns. I see that, I think on New Year's
Day, there's actually going to be what they call a ``MySpace
Presidential Debate.'' And the person writes into us, ``It looks
like this has invaded the Presidential campaign. What about that?
What about young people and the Presidential candidates?'' I
mean, first, if you have any thoughts on MySpace hosting a
Presidential ``debate,'' I'd like to know that. But what about
this question about getting young people involved, not just
sending emails, but actually out in the street and organizing?
{Teng:} Oh, I wasn't aware that the Presidential candidates
were looking for new sex partners, but... maybe that's a scandal
we'll have to follow up.
No, but I know Cody and I both joined the LaRouche movement
during a Presidential campaign. It was when LaRouche was running
his own Presidential campaign, and LaRouche has never made a
distinction between electoral politics, and engaging the youth,
and how to create a Renaissance. That was never something that
was separate, that was dichotomized as separate things. And the
whole idea that the way you appeal to youth is with beer, music,
and bribes, which is effectively how these operations are run,
itself shows the kind of view that these guys have of not just
youth, but of human beings in general.
Because, if you look at the election last year, we actually
unleashed a revolutionary process inside the youth generation,
the 18 to 35 generation, around the midterm elections, and it was
around a campaign to expose the inner workings of this Lynne
Cheney campus Gestapo operation, and from the fact that, in real
discussions with people, but in creating a mass effect around the
country as part of a political mobilization with the idea that
the youth were going to be responsible for the direction of the
country, and engaging people in an actual dialogue around ``what
ideas are needed for the future of the country?'' And then,
saying from that, how are we going to implement it, that actually
unleashed a process where you had record numbers of youth voters
come out, to put the Democrats in with a landslide.
Now, I've heard the argument that this was done because of
blogs and chatrooms and things like that, and I always have to
wonder, if it was simply a matter of just getting enough people
online with information, we never would have had Bush, either the
first time, or definitely not with the reelection.

{Schlanger:} Hmm! Yeah, this gets back to the question of
human interaction. And I'd like to direct this next question to
Cody. We have a rather long email from John Durum [ph], who
writes about his excitement of going back to the ideas of the
Founding Fathers. And he said, he initially discovered LaRouche
from reading {Dope, Inc.} and then {The Political Economy of the
American Revolution}. And he's very excited with the work that's
coming up now, with the Patriot Files, the revival of the study
of the American System around James Fenimore Cooper. Cody, you
want to say something about that project?
Cody: Yeah, one thing that LaRouche has recognized, in
addressing both this problem in the MySpace, Facebook, etc., is
that this is a consequence of our having been robbed of our sense
of history, of where this country came from, and consequently
losing sight of where it's intended to go. So, what's been
launched, is a project to really delve deep into the ideas, and
the figures who shaped and made America possible. And one of
those leading figures is James Fenimore Cooper, both in terms of
his communicating an idea of the ideals of the United States,
what it's intended to represent. But also as a figure who
embodied the method of real intelligence work, which LaRouche has
often pointed to: That intelligence is not the spook world that
is often portrayed, but intelligence is understanding the
fundamental battle between oligarchism and the humanist fight,
typified by Plato, Cusa, up through Kepler, etc., and the
Founding Fathers. And so, embodied in that is James Fenimore
Cooper as one of the leading figures in shaping the period that
led into, then, the Lincoln revolution.
So, this is something which the youth are now embarking on,
and really trying to understand ``what is our real history? Where
did we come from? And how do we move forward from the dark age,
we're presently collapsing into?

{Schlanger:} Well, it seems that a common point that both of
you have been making as members of the Youth Movement, is that,
in fact, the momentary, or moment-to-moment titillation that one
gets from the so-called entertainment of the Internet, is
actually dwarfed by the genuine emotion, and passion, and
excitement of discovering that you have a mind that can affect
events in the world. I presume that's a big part of what you're
talking about. So, how do we go out... what're you doing on the
campuses up in the Bay Area, Oyang, where in a sense, you're
going head-to-head against the cyberspace, Silicon Valley--you
know, some people think ``Silicon Valley'' is the women on
MySpace. But there actually is a Silicon Valley up there, and
you've got people who have made {huge} amounts of money,
essentially with swindles on the New Economy. How do you
communicate these deeper ideas to people, when you meet them on
campuses?
{Teng:} This is the difference between living in a fixed
system, and actually confronting one's mind and someone else's
mind with the paradoxes of the actual universe. I mean, what you
get with the MySpace/Internet/video-game phenomenon, as Cody was
mentioning, is just a more distilled version of a totally fixed,
axiomatic system, which may be more and more sophisticated as you
get better and better graphics, and more and more computing power
and so forth. But you're always within a fixed, axiomatic,
logical-deductive system. And that's how most people live their
lives, whether they're in the Internet, or in general.

{Schlanger:} That's a ``comfort zone'' then. It doesn't
challenge you much.
{Teng:} Yeah, exactly. There's this certain belief structure
that you have to follow, and you think that that will get you by,
day to day. What we do, is something as simple as confronting
someone with a geometrical problem, the idea of working through,
themselves, some actual scientific or simple geometrical problem,
either at the table [where we organize] or coming into the
office. And recognizing that even in the act of trying to discuss
what's true, as opposed to having the terms of the discussion be
what's popular, even the idea that you're going to try to figure
out what's true, itself is a confrontation with the culture. And
you'll find that most people, when given the right kind of
environment, where they're not constantly bombarded with other
stuff, that's what they're going to want to choose, that's what
they're going to want to explore. And we've got to create the
political conditions, where that's evoked in a larger and larger
mass of the population.

{Schlanger:} Cody, let me just go a little bit from our
topic--we have about 10 minutes to go, and I wanted to get in,
just briefly, the mobilization of the Homeowners and Bank
Protection Act. We've seen, in the last couple of days, that this
has been taken up in the Congress, albeit not directly, typified
by the cowardice of most of the Congressmen; but John Conyers
read into the Congress the other day, the Michigan state
resolution that's going to be voted on soon, calling for the
Homeowners and Bank Protection Act of Lyndon LaRouche to be
adopted; and then Congressman Al Green from Houston, who's been
constantly confronted by the LaRouche Youth Movement here, asking
him to do something, he asked on three occasions to an
Undersecretary of the Treasury, ``what about a freeze on
foreclosures?'' I know you have a resolution before the Los
Angeles County Democratic Central Committee, coming up in a week
or so, what do you think the prospects are for passage there,
given that California is one of the centers of the collapse of
the housing market?
{Jones:} Well, we've gotten a very positive response from
what you might consider the ``grass roots'' of the Democratic
Party. I think the prospect of getting that through in this
week's upcoming meeting, is pretty high. The roadblock is at the
top, but fortunately, we've got some friends here in Los Angeles,
we've done a lot of organizing here, people know that we are the
principal adversaries of people like Cheney and Schwarzenegger,
etc., so I think we'll get it through. And just in this week
alone, the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, a form of
resolution was passed through the Pomona City Council, we've got
other ones pending in a couple of other city councils around
here, so the momentum is building, and it really is a function of
leadership. At a certain point, all of the clouding of reality in
the MySpace, can be defeated at the point that you introduce real
leadership in a time of crisis, which is what we're demonstrating
as a proof of principle, now.

{Schlanger:} Speaking of real leadership, Oyang, you're
right up there in your area is the patron saint of
Miss-Leadership, namely Nancy Pelosi. Are we getting into her
district, since LaRouche has identified her as the problem, the
chokepoint in the Congress for getting rid of Cheney: have we
been getting some responses in the Bay Area on LaRouche's call
for her to step down?
{Teng:} Yeah, we've gone out with some pretty provocative
signs showing the need for Congress to get a new facelift, and
putting Nancy's mug up there, with the screws bolted in her head.
And generally what we're finding, is there's no love for her,
even in her own backyard. We went to some of the more hard-core
districts in San Francisco, and are finding broad agreement with
the fact that Pelosi's no good. We're also finding, on top of
that, just a general disgust with the whole leadership of the
Congress. So, that's the crucial element, which is that it's
never just simply a fact of people being disgusted with the
current system. The fact that Congress has a 10.7% approval,
lower than Cheney, shows that people recognize there's a vacuum
of leadership, we don't have to convince them of that. But the
danger is if you get people in that kind of state of mind, if
they're simply pessimistic, then they're perfect fodder for some
new kind of fascist movement, and as long as Cheney's in there,
then the threat of a new 9/11 is still active. So, it's what's
Cody's saying: If you actually come in, and provide real
political leadership, that's something that people can respond
to, which will tend to break what seems right now like the
dominant consensus.

{Schlanger:} Well, it seems as though that's the central
issue, then. As Lyn often does, he gets right to the heart of
things. On the one hand, you've got Cheney and the danger of war
with Iran; on the other hand, you have the clear indications,
especially this last week, of the breakdown of the financial
system, Merrill Lynch writing off huge amounts of money,
Citibank, Federal Reserve having to pump in $41 billion just to
keep the banks open. And at the same time, then, you have the
question of why it is that so many people are passive? And you
could say, ``it's Pelosi, it's the misleadership at the top.''
But I think ultimately, we're dealing with this question we've
been discussing today, which is how do you break young people
free, of the addiction to video games, to artificial computer
personas. And in the closing--we've got about 4 minutes--I'd like
each of you to take your best shot, at what we have to do now, to
change this, to finish off this fascist movement that's being
brought in through the Internet? Why we don't we start with you
Cody?
{Jones:} Well, the key is going to be to go out and bring
ideas to people, via what we're doing with the science work and
the music work. If you give people a sense of beauty, now they
have something to counterpose to the ugliness of the Internet and
the MySpace, too. Obviously, attacking it, it's important to make
people self-conscious of what the danger is, what the Internet
represents, etc., but unless you present them with a counter to
that, present them with a solution, all they're going to be left
with is confusion.
So, we have to, on the one hand, expose the insanity of this
stuff, but then also counterpose that to the real beauty of the
work we're doing in the science, in the music, and then the
political leadership we're giving them, particularly in
addressing things like the foreclosure crisis, the banking system
collapse, just the general globalization breakdown. So I think
that's going to be the key.

{Schlanger:} And Oyang?
{Teng:} Yeah, I can say that in the last week, when we've
gone out onto some of the campuses, and even off campus, hitting
people up front with some of the problems with their conceptual
grasp of reality, and pointing out where it's coming from, that
actually the response has been pretty immediate. That many people
recognize that this is a disease of their generation. People say,
``Yeah, I've been thinking about this, too. I'm so glad that you
guys are saying this.'' Or, you'll get a polarized response the
other way.
But I think the idea of the mass effect, something that
we've been perfecting over the last year, starting with the
midterm elections, is that you have to set off a social process
within the leading edge of the younger generation. And what you
find, if you target that, instead of just trying to ``appeal''
and say, ``we're going to ask for permission from someone in
Congress, or some higher-up, and maybe they'll like our ideas and
do something.'' What we've done with the on-the-ground
mobilization just in the last six weeks around the HBPA, going
into city councils, state legislatures, speaking at public
forums, going onto campuses, is, that if you're in the pores of
the society and you're moving the population and the leading
layers from the ground up, then you've got an actual leadership
capability within the nation, which has a potential to, through
the Cooper project and some of these things, to get the better
people in positions of responsibility to act. But also for the
next generation, you're creating an actual competent core, and a
continuity that's going to be able to run the country. And that's
what we're confronting young people with, is that it's going to
be our responsibility to direct the next 50 years on the planet.

{Schlanger:} Well, let me give you a vote of confidence from
an email we just got, who says: ``A comment to the fellow from
Australia'' obviously referring to ``Sir Rupert'' who was with us
earlier--``We have personally watched this LaRouche Youth
Movement change world history and the whole way the political
establishment is operating, as well as exposing the evil Dick
Cheney. We are from the intelligentsia, and know that
universities are presently dumbing-down people. Keep up the good
work, LYM!'' And that's from a Robert Hill, in Oakland.
So, this work that you're doing is not going unnoticed, and
I'm sure that Nancy Pelosi has a couple of choice words for what
you guys are doing up in the Bay Area, Oyang. But the best words
we want to hear from her are: ``I'm leaving.''
So, we're at the end of our hour, so we have to take leave.
I'd like to thank Cody and Oyang, and encourage you, to get onto
the LaRouche PAC website, to follow this fight, and become a part
of it! To free this youth generation from being recruited into a
fascist movement.
As to ``Sir Rupert,'' he's always welcome to come back, and
spew his garbage on this program. Because we, unlike Fox, are
fair and balanced.
So, join us next week on The LaRouche Show. Thank you very
much.

{For the full effect, one can listen to the program, which is
archived on Larouchepub.com, to catch the wonderful
characterization of Murdoch, as presented by Aaron Halevy.}


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- COLOMBIA OPERATIONS REPORT -
- NOVEMBER 2, 2007 -
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COLOMBIAN LYM KEY FACTOR IN BOGOTA MAYOR'S ELECTORAL VICTORY

With an historic and unprecedentedly large vote, the Polo
Democratico Alternativo candidate Samuel Moreno won the position
of mayor of the nation's capital with 915,000 votes. Samuel
Moreno Rojas had a political education from an early age,
provided in part by his grandfather, the former president of
Colombia Gen. Gustavo Rojas Pinilla, a Roosevelt ally in the 50s,
and in part by his mother, the former presidential candidate and
political leader Maria Eugenia Rojas de Moreno. Moreno's campaign
for mayor of Bogota received the support of the LaRouche Youth
Movement in Colombia because of his proposal for a Bogota subway
and trains for the region, which was raised to a higher level by
the complement of the world landbridge proposed by LaRouche, a
proposal which Moreno supported by printing 50,000 leaflets on
the subject. At the same time, the LYM commanded an elite group
of youth with the mission of generating a political mass effect
in the streets.
Against all forecsts and with great resistance in the early
phase of the campaign, the LYN played this flank and today, the
LYM is acknowledged among circles close to Moreno and the Polo as
a determining factor in the electoral results he achieved.
In the final week of the campaign, there was a ferocious
attack by the oligarchy against the metro/train proposal, led by
Colombian president Alvaro Uribe, who came out publicly urging
people not to vote for Moreno, claiming he was the candidate of
the FARC and that he was buying votes and was making impossible
promises like the metro "which could not be financed." The
members of the LYM launched a tactical deployment to take the
center of the city with songs and slogans to elevate the
optimism, which defied the effect that the defeated neoliberal
horde hoped to achieve.
In Uribe's mind, no doubt, resounded the recent
interventions of the LYM in favor of building the Metro and the
regional trains, along with the proposal for nuclear energy,
proposals which he was unable to assimilate in his linear
Cartesian mind which prevents him from understanding how to use
sovereign credit to finance these proposals. There is no question
that he and his circle are very well aware that those who upheld
the banner of the trains and the metro in this campaign were "the
LaRouche youth."
So far, a prisoner to his own hysteria and rancor, uribe has
not wanted to meet with moreno. Traditionally, the President
always calls the mayor-elect to a meeting on the day after the
election, to begin discussions. Instead, it is reported that
President Uribe will name as his new Transport Minister the
defeated mayor of Bogota Enrique Penalosa, with the explicit
purpose of sabotaging the building of a Bogota metro and regional
trains. Moreno is still trying to meet with the President.

Now for the best part. We are going to begin an initiative in the
streets to counteract the Jacobin effort of the oligarchy to
divide the country between left and right, to sabotage this
precious moment, in which the education of the democratic base of
our Republic, the citizens, and of the current president,
continues to be the order of the day.

Pedro Rubio Jr.


Thursday, Nov. 1 --COLOMBIAN LYM INTERVENES IN CONGRESS WITH
HOMEOWNERS AND BANK PROTECTION ACT

On November 1, members of the LYM attended a public hearing on
housing, called by the Senate headed by the (President's) Social
Party of National Unity. The event was attended by the Senate
president Nancy Patricia Gutierrez, the president of the "U"
Party Carlos Garcia, the Environment and Housing Minister Juan
Lozano, as well as former ministers, construction unions,
financial associations, congressmen, citizens associations, etc.
The various presentations outlined the need to reorient housing
policy in a more social direction, and away from financial
speculation.
At the present time, Colombia has a deficit of more than 2.3
million housing units, which can be added to the crisis of
mortgage debtors which is growing by the day due to their
inability to pay, combined with the speculative factor of the UVR
(Unit of Real Value), a mechanism implemented to alleviate
pressures during an earlier period of crisis in the so-called
UPAC, which were financial paper used to turn mortgage loans into
speculative business ventures tied to inflation and other
economic variables, which made the value of houses rise nearly
nine-fold over their real value.
All of the presentations at the hearing were merely
sociological descriptions, albeit of a very real problem, but a
sense of impotence reigned with regard to addressing the problem
with real solutions. The LYM's Pedro Rubio presented LaRouche's
HPBA legislation to the audience, outlined the essential aspects
of the proposed legislation. He succeeded in elevating the
discussion by bringing the housing crisis into the perspective of
the world financial collapse. He argued that in the short term,
mortgages should be frozen immediately and foreclosures
prohibited, accompanied by a reliquidation of the debt in monthly
rental payments, to allow the functioning of the banks which
would in turn enable their recapitalization. He urged a
revaluation of properties adjusted to reality, along with a
political commitment by governors and mayors to assume
administrative responsibility for such a proposal. He also
reviewed what a National Bank could do to reactive the economy
for the generation of large-scale employment through
implementation of infrastructure necessary for a healthy
economy--trains, cities, industrial centers, hospitals, schools,
etc.
After a sustained dialogue, the Environment and Housing
minister asked Rubio for a copy of the leaflet, left contact
information and expressed interest in the initiative that is now
circulating in the Congress of the United States.
The object of this and other hearings is to provide raw
material for the preparation of a housing statute that would be
legislated in mid-2008, which would set the financial and urban
management conditions for the acquisition of housing. The LYM
intends to participate in this.

Friday, Nov. 2--THE LYM PARTICIPATES IN A DISTRICT YOUTH FORUM

With the attendance of some 20 youth, representing six youth
organizations in Bogota, a youth forum was held, organized by the
CIASE (Center of Economic and Social Studies). Although the
invitation did not indicate the theme of the conference, we found
out that it was something along the lines of "gender violence and
new masculinities." The LYM decided to give the forum a new
direction.
We immediately changed the agenda with a presentation on the
role of the LYM in the world. Our interventions included giving a
briefing on the world financial collapse, the threat of world war
pushed by the neocons, the role of science and music in
education, and our emphasis that "the only way to avoid violence
is with a just economic model in which the general welfare and
happiness is a fundamental premise. Only if we elevate the minds
of humanity will we have beautiful souls and lasting peace, and
that is the only solution to violence, not only against women,
but against children, men, the elderly, youth, against all of
humanity."
The audience immediately perceived the change in the
geometry of the forum, by moving from a small discussion to a
more sublime reflection on the world. That is the role of the
LYM.
We made a number of youth contacts, and some are planning to
invite us to their local networks to extend the experience.

by Pedro Rubio

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