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Date Posted: 14:31:17 11/04/07 Sun
Author: part 1
Subject: November 4, 2007

ICLC BRIEFING INTERNATIONAL VERSION

1 of 55 Pages BY: JEFF STEINBERG/WARROOM/AP/KRN
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LYN'S IDEAS ARE THE DRIVER FOR EVERY POLITICAL INITIATIVE IN
THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD--GET THE RESOURCES TO CARRY THEM OUT!

{Here is the weekly update from Jeff, and a prerecorded War-Room
briefing from Limari and Nick.}

JEFF: Let me first of all start out by making sure that
everybody's attention has already been flagged to the LaRouchePAC
website and the new animation which leads the website. And Lyn
basically intervened against a certain flatness and went to the
crew out here in the Basement and said, "Let's apply the
animations technology that we're working with to really add some
spice to the website," and I think you'll agree that the opening
shot, the Nancy Pelosi Mask really is exactly what the doctor
ordered.
The other big challenge that we're going to have to take up
and solve this week, is a certain disconnect, between the LPAC
income being generated versus the actual tremendous breakthroughs
that are being made operationally, through the LPAC work in a
number of different ways: Obviously, we've turned the country
upside down already, around the Homeowners and Bank Protection
Act, and we know, without going into a lot of name, rank, and
serial number detail, that the issue of Lyn's firewall proposal
is being intensively studied and debated in Washington, D.C. on
Capitol Hill, against an enormous counterorganizing effort,
coming out of the hedge funds and the banks, which are all doomed
and are still desperately scrambling to make sure that they
survive a situation in which they already are "dead men walking."
In fact, there's going to be an emergency board {tomorrow}, of
Citibank, in which, among other things they will probably accept
the resignation of the CEO, and we understand that they're going
to be talking about formally changing the name of the institution
to Citicorpse, which is a much more appropriate name
So, we've got a situation going where, as Lyn has been
saying for quite some time, the onrushing reality of the collapse
of the entire system, is going to force more and more people to
face the fact that what Lyn is proposing with the HBPA, the
creation of a firewall against the mass social chaos of millions
of people losing their houses, and the collapse of the entire
financial system on a worldwide scale, is the only viable
alternative. It's coming up constantly, and good ol' Congressman
John Conyers, who is the sort of cowardly weathervane for what's
going on on Capitol Hill, really let the cat out of the bag this
week, when he read into the record of the House Judiciary
Committee hearings, all of the three key proposals of the
Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, verbatim--naturally, without
saying where he got it from, other than "my friends want me to do
this," and then he read it into the hearing record. That
reflects more than just some goofy thing on Conyers' part, it
reflects his recognition that this {is} the issue that's being
massively discussed and debated. Because there is no
alternative: We had the Barney Frank hearings yesterday, where
two members of the committee were interrogating witnesses, and
they explicitly asked, "Why not a moratorium on all
foreclosures?"
So on that issue, we know we're getting traction. And the
key to it, is the continuation and the expansion of the
mobilization around the United States, which is also building up
a tremendous head of steam. We've got situations that were
completely off the radar screen just days and weeks ago, that are
now moving very rapidly:
*Maryland is in an emergency session of the state
legislature, over the fact that the state is bankrupt, and has no
plan for what to do. And so, suddenly, we've got several
sponsors expected to introduce the Homeowners and Bank Protection
Act very soon.
*In Illinois, we got, through the radiating work in
Missouri, two initial sponsors on the HBPA, as the Illinois
legislature is also in emergency session, over the fact that they
can't get a budget together. And those two sponsors--in the
context of the Mark Fairchild's highly successful statewide tour,
and then his direct intervention in Springfield with the press
conference at the State Capitol, delivering a 20-year-long "I
told you so" from Lyn--got another, third sponsor, a major
political figure from the Chicago area.
We've got situations like this, either springing up, or as
potentialities all over the country. In Massachusetts, we've got
city councils all over the state, moving on this issue.
And so, those people who were holding their breath, praying
that the Fed and Paulson were right, two, three weeks ago, when
they said the worst of the subprime crisis is over, are now
totally reeling from the fact that you've got Merrill Lynch,
Citicorpse, other financial institutions being forced to write
off tens of billions of dollars in losses on pure speculation on
all of these various kinds of real estate-based and other
fraudulent investments. You have the blowout of Merrill Lynch:
The CEO being forced to resign by a board that he handpicked and
installed when he took over the company.
So this thing is unraveling and coming down very, very fast.
And the {only} alternative in sight is to go back to an American
System approach. We had Lyn's diplomatic luncheon on Wednesday
this week, tremendous turnout: Five ambassadors and
representatives of over 20 countries. And Lyn laid out, right up
front, that the most pressing strategic issue is this collapse of
the entire post-Bretton Woods, dollar-based international
monetary order, and there's no hiding place anywhere on the
planet.
We've got traction, clearly, in Congress on the issue of the
Iran war, the pending war attack, the bombing campaign that
Cheney wants against Iran. Why do you think it is that Kucinich
is introducing a privileged resolution on Tuesday, in the House
of Representatives, on the Cheney impeachment? This is a
reflection of a climate that we've built up persistently over the
last year or more, telling people that Cheney's policy is war on
Iran before this administration leaves office. Months ago,
people were telling us, "No, the opposition is too powerful. The
military opposes it. Rumsfeld gone, so Cheney doesn't really
have big allies any more inside the cabinet..." And we said, "No:
It doesn't work that way. You have a lunatic for a President.
Cheney meets with him every Thursday, one on one for lunch when
they're both in Washington. This is the situation, where you
have a London-directed fascist coup being targeted at the United
States, and the usual mechanisms of sanity for stopping it, ain't
gonna work."
So, now you've got a recognition that Lyn has been right on
that issue as well, as reflected in initiatives coming from all
over the place: You had Chuck Hagel writing a private letter to
President Bush saying, "don't bomb Iran, start diplomacy
immediately." You have a letter written by Sen. Jim Webb
[D-Va.], signed by 29 other Democrats, including Hillary, saying
the same, exact thing: That the President can not attack Iran
without going to Congress and presenting a credible case to the
American people and Congress.
So, we've stoked up quite a lot: The article that's out in
the lead of this morning's briefing, on the 9/11 and BAE
scandals, is going to throw a great big monkey wrench into
Cheney's war plans, because here you've got the Saudis, of all
people, throwing back in Cheney's face, the 9/11 attack, just two
weeks after Lyn shocked everybody by focusing his Oct. 10 webcast
on exactly that issue, on the fact that 9/11 was an inside job.
Now, this is current events that we're dealing with here, not
events from six years ago: Because, you've got the Iran war
option, and you've got a new 9/11 attack option, both, among the
arsenal of the options that the Cheney crowd and their backers in
London are considering. Because they've got just a few months
more to complete the process of totally destroying the United
States.
Now, you've got war dangers erupting all over the planet.
You've got an out-of-control kind of situation: You've got a
pending war between Turkey and Iraq, which the U.S. is throwing
Condi Rice into the middle of, to try to prevent from happening,
because it'll blow up the entire Kurdish situation; it'll blow a
British game that's been under way since even before the
Sykes-Picot Treaty.
You have the situation now in Pakistan, where it's anyone's
bet what's going to happen there: This morning Musharraf declared
a state of emergency, the Supreme Court refused to accept it--as
far as we know, the Supreme Court building was taken over by the
Pakistani military, and the Supreme Court justices may very well
be under house arrest. And Benazir Bhutto has just returned to
the country, from having been away on a family visit. You've had
bombings almost every day--Musharraf, Bhutto, all targeted for
assassination: So here you've got a country with nuclear
weapons, in which things are just completely blowing up.
Tanu's getting indications from military sources in India,
that they think you could get a direct U.S. military intervention
into the Pakistan's North West Frontier Province area, which has
now become a renewed command/control center for Al Qaeda,
Taliban, and the rest.
So you've got rampant Dark Ages insanity spreading around
many parts of the globe, where, again, the only viable
alternative is what Lyn has identified as the "four powers
cooperation." And the big missing ingredient is getting some
kind of government in place in Washington, that's sane enough to
become part of such a war-avoidance arrangement.
So, wherever you look, Lyn is driving the political process
in the United States. The fact that biological reasons prevent
him from being a declared candidate for President, doesn't in the
least diminish the fact that, among all these Lilliputians
running for President, you have an actual giant who's shaping
policy, day by day, hour by hour, and that's the message we've
got to get out: Because we need to turn around what's been a
steady erosion in the LPAC income, because we know that LPAC is
the driver, our political intervention is the driver for what's
required to turn this situation around.
Everywhere we turn, we have great strategic openings, and we
are about to uncork to throw a great big monkey wrench in the way
of the Tavistock crowd's plans to turn the youth generation into
a bunch of fascist marcher-lords, using the internet and video
point-and-shoot killer games as a brainwashing mechanism. We're
going to launch what amounts in effect to a new counterculture
campaign, along the lines of what was the driver for the
recruitment of the whole movement back in the late '60s and '70s.
And on top of that, you're seeing, every week now in EIR, very,
very high-quality historical material that's laying out,
conceptually, with historical precision, the fight between the
American and British systems. And Lyn sees that as a point of
strategic point of intervention, to define the terms of reference
for any successful candidate for President in 2008.
So all of the activity that I've been talking about, is
primarily LPAC-driven activity, and we've got to make sure that
this situation with the LPAC income, from the top down, is turned
around, this week. Because we have opportunities GALORE, that
we've got to be sure that we're in the position to fully exploit.
So, that's what I've got to say. I'm going to leave it now
to the War-Room briefing taped last night.

War-Room Update:
- WELLS'S BLOGOSPHERE VERSUS VERNADSKY'S NOOSPHERE -

LIMARI: Well, I'm not giving this briefing in the most
ordinary circumstance, we're taping it this time. But this is
Limari from your new War-Room with Nick, and we're actually going
to go through some of the operations, but before we do that, we
want to just give people a sense of the transition that's been
taking place right now in Leesburg, because there's a lot going
on here. And when we got here a week ago, actually Nick was the
first one to arrive here last week, in the War-Room, an NEC
meeting took place, in which Lyn laid out that the locals are
actually being much too soft on fighting for the HBPA, and much
too soft on the culture issue. And he completely ripped into
MySpace--maybe three times or more.
In order to tackle this, we began various discussions with
the locals, and we quickly got a picture and found that the
locals really weren't attacking the issue of culture, and it was
especially apparent with the Seattle cadre school, just this last
weekend. As many of you probably know, we had various contacts
who were committed to come, serious contacts that had been
organized through--as reported--an elevated process of organizing
throughout the entire local. You even had people who had paid.
And then, you had an interesting phenomenon of various contacts,
either not showing up, or not being there when we went to pick
them up.
So we discussed this with Lyn, and he brought up that--he
said: Even before I got off the phone with Seattle at the cadre
school, I can get a sense that there's an operation going on, in
the youth population, like an actual triple operation, through
the MySpace, Facebook, and other internet-induced operations to
destroy the youth population and the population at large.
So, through this discussion process, we have actually found
that there's a lot of work that has already been done by the
locals. Actually, we've have two or three conference calls; the
biggest one occurred yesterday, where we had all three of the
basement crews on, with various individuals who had come through
the War-Room, and had actually produced material on these
operations. And we got actually a quite competent picture of the
whole thing, which is already being discussed as being put into
the form of a pamphlet, and that's what Nick Walsh is going to
take everyone through, just in a moment.
But, one thing that we've seen coming out of this
discussion, immediately, is Seattle, they actually did a great
job of taking up this issue, in the forefront of their campus
organizing. What they decided to do is produce a leaflet, and it
was a spinoff of a leaflet that had already been circulating at
UW on the National Campus Walkout. And what they decided to do,
was a national virtual walkout on Nov. 3, which is tomorrow. A
national day to logoff. And essentially, they put this out maybe
in the hundreds. They started actually getting them out,
saturating the campuses with them, and they got interesting
responses, of laughter, of essentially general agreement that
there was something genuinely lame about people who are addicted
to MySpace on one side, and on the other side, a sense that
people didn't think it was funny, or were actually very offended
by it.
We had also another organizer in Detroit, who, when
confronting an enraged youth on the issue of videogames, decided
to be very upfront, and say, "Look the reason why you're not
following any of the ideas that I'm laying out for you right now,
and the reason why you're so hostile, is because you've been
playing too many damned videogames!" To which he responded,
"Well, actually I've been thinking about that. It's probably
right."
So, you're getting a sense that this is something that is
going to recruit people. This is something that essentially
recruited the Boomers in their youth, is the sense that not only
are we doing something political, but what's going to set us
apart is that we're going after essentially what's destroying the
population's creativity.
Now, what you have being done in Boston right now, is some
good work, essentially on the organizing for the HBPA: Their
approach has to go to the outer areas around Boston, go to the
states surrounding Massachusetts--Rhode Island and
Connecticut--and go to the local level, go to the city councils,
go to the state houses in these areas, and feed that process into
the Statehouse in Massachusetts. And the kind of success that
they've had, comes from organizing elected officials as if they
were youth, and organizing youth as if they were elected
officials--essentially, not seeing a dichotomy between the two.
And rather than begging elected officials of their endorsement on
the HBPA, giving people a sense that they're expected to be
recruited to Lyn's economics. That they're expected to learn
history, they're expected to live historically. And so, they're
taking organizing these officials over the long term, and they're
doing this with a state Senator from Connecticut, who's giving
them various leads all over the state.
Now, this is very important, because what we've seen in the
last week, is a couple attacks--there were probably more attacks,
actually, than we're aware of. But one individual in New Jersey,
who is a signer of the HBPA was attacked for supporting an
anti-Semite. Now, this is somebody who has been a close contact,
who has actually contributed to our organization. So, we're
going out on the counteroffensive in New Jersey. But also, it's
important to note that in Sacramento, one of our very few signers
out there in California, actually decided to take her name off
list! And this was after the LYM testified at a Sacramento city
council meeting, that this woman was a part of, and got a quite
hostile response. And at this same meeting, one of the agenda
items, was to authorize the city treasurer to have a service
agreement between Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch, that they
would serve as investment bankers for the city for the next five
years.
So you have a lot of good organizing going on in Oakland,
and they're approach has been to go after Pelosi, which is great:
I would say that's the best work we've done on the Pelosi flank
anywhere in the country. And it's pretty interesting, that you
do have that strength in Oakland, you have a certain strength in
Boston in doing a certain follow-up with these elected officials,
and you have a strength in Seattle, with the work in going after
MySpace, and take this up extremely quickly and getting a good
result.
But what is essentially needed to work, is a sense of how to
bring these three things together as one, and how to elevate the
understanding of one local to that of another, say on the Pelosi
flank or on the HPBA flank. But some of the specific things that
Oakland has been doing which has been very effective, was going
to Pelosi's district where they thought they'd get a lot of
backlash, but actually seeing that there is more of a divided
population, even among the layers who might know Pelosi, or know
people who know Pelosi. And they've actually encountered some
absurd anomalies in Oakland, which is one of the only places
they've been to, a place called Lakeshore where you have
unanimous type of support for what Pelosi's doing, which is very
odd.
But these type of strategic deployments are the kind of
things that are going to be necessary for putting a type of
pressure and creating a groundswell among the population.
And what we have going on in Detroit, is, with some
reinforcements from L.A. and Oakland, is a deployment down into
Springfield, Illinois with Mark Fairchild. And what he's doing
is organizing across the state for the HBPA, and he held a press
conference in the state house, where you had five media--two from
TV, 2 from radio and a newspaper. And he went rhough the same
material as he had in Rockford, Ill., and got a couple of
interesting questions: One was, "How does it feel to be here 21
years later, in this same state house, where you could have
presided as Lieutenant Governor over the state of Illinois?" And
he took that opportunity to go through the destruction of the
Democratic Party in the state, through Adlai Stevenson's tragic
act of running as an independent. Some else interesting, is that
he got a call back from the mayor of Rockford, who is interested
in looking into the HBPA. Now, keep in mind, this one of the
places where we got the most violent slanders in the '86 election
against Mark, and against the success of Lyn's organizing and
ideas.
In D.C., one thing they've been doing, which has always been
invited by the D.C. local all along, is a specific collaboration
with the locals. Where Boston met a young woman who was about to
be foreclosed on and evicted, and she went to the LYM to actually
get help. What Boston did, is to contact the D.C. LYM, and
together got her story into the Capitol with our HBPA packet, and
doing a teamup between the on-the-ground organizing and the
organizing in the state capital.
So overall, just to round it off, it's extremely important
that we have this sort of transparency between what the War-Room
is doing, what the Basement is doing, and also what the Editorial
team is doing. Because, there really shouldn't be any sort of
difference between the three, and also what's being done on the
ground. Because what we're seeing is an unnecessary dichotomy
between, say, the Basement work, which is essentially is what is
being attacked most by those who are slandering the LaRouche
Youth Movement. It's our curriculum. But on the other hand, we
have a counterintelligence effort in the War-Room, not being
informed by the work in the Basement, or not being combined, and
using actually a scientific approach, for example, going after
MySpace, which was what was missing all along. People were
responding--it was seen in the locals from a standpoint of our
perception of what MySpace is, either, say, having not ever
encountered MySpace because maybe you might have been a little
bit older and not a part of that whole thing; or, say, growing up
with MySpace and that being the only thing you know and that
being "normal" as part of your culture, even if you were in the
movement.
And so, what we were able to bring together this week,
through the various discussions and conference calls is a
scientific view of what this represents, that goes outside of
what MySpace is, just as an internet site; but how was this idea
of MySpace even conceived of? And essentially, before you had
Microsoft and the rest of the gang, how the idea of the internet
was already created--long before you had Bill Gates and even
Atari. So, Nick Walsh has some more details on that conference
call, and he's going to go through that next...
NICK: The key to call that we had a couple days ago, which
I will touch on the some of the main points, was the intention to
recruit the population, in order that we can win this fight
against the British Empire, and not only save the United States,
but get the United States back on a course of leading and working
with other nations in developing the human race; and going back
to our ideas for colonizing Mars, developing and transforming
deserts, building the Eurasian Land-Bridge. And this is
something that, at the moment, all the members have to ask
themselves, how much they think that winning this fight, is
possible right now?
Because the key right now, is recruitment: In 1989, when the
Berlin Wall collapsed, and the Soviet system came down, the main
thing that was lacking at that time, was leadership. Because
LaRouche was warning that was going to happen, but none of the
political figures had any idea that that was going to happen! And
there was no leadership to actually organize around what LaRouche
said could have been done at that time.
And it's a similar situation now. And members have to look
at say, am I aware of how much the oligarchy is dominating this
situation? Or, am I aware of how close, how much of an
opportunity we have to actually create a new system, that can
destroy the oligarchy? So, we had this conference call, and it
was good because we had all the Basement people on it--the
present Basement and past Basement members; and we had past
War-Room folks, and other people that have done work on this
intelligence flank that Lyn is developing. And so, it had a very
scientific edge to it, which was part of the intention.
Sky brought up the idea from Lyn's {Beyond Psychoanalysis}
paper, that in order to organize people we need to do two things:
1) we have to destroy their bad axioms, and 2) we have to uplift
and organize them around truthful principles, uplifting ideas.
And this is something that was a good way to set up the call. He
talked about some work he's been doing on the analogue computer
versus the digital computer, which I'm not going to go into right
now, mainly because I don't understand it. But it's something
that has to do with the difference between the kind of thinking
that Leibniz represented versus the kind of thinking that
Descartes represented, in a computer system.
So, I'll go over a few points: One thing that was brought
up at the beginning, was that the thing to keep in mind, is that
the problem with this whole flank that we're developing, this
cybernetics, is not computers in and of itself. Computers are
not, per se, evil. And if you look at Lyndon LaRouche, he was an
early promoter of computer technology, one of the people in the
United States who saw the value of these types of things very
early on... but for what? For increasing the productive
processes of manufacturing, and increasing the productive powers
of labor. Of course, LaRouche also developed and applied the
LaRouche-Riemann Method through a development of this computer
system in the early '80s, which produced the greatest economic
forecasting model, month to month, ever seen.
So, it's not the computer. So, what is it? When we're
dealing with cybernetics, it's the British Empire. It's the
oligarchical system. It's evil people who have taken whatever
they can get their hands on, including this cybernetics movement,
this computer technology, and saying, "We're going to use this to
{control society}, and get people out of reality, and make people
stupid, like cows, so we can control them." And to the extent
individuals today want to be dumb, then they will go along with
MySpace, and they'll be on Facebook, and they'll play computer
games. If they're cowards and they're too afraid to fight, then
they'll be on MySpace.
Now, Matt brought up, in this context, that Lyn had
mentioned that {The Shape of Things To Come} is the model for
this whole cybernetics movement. And Matt's been looking into
that, and found that Wells lays out in there, this concept of
creating a world-brain, or a world-encyclopedia. And we watched
this movie last night, called "Things To Come" based on the book,
where the hero of the movie talks about how "We are going to
create a priesthood of efficiency, and a freemasonry of science!"
And it's a really goofy movie. People should watch it, it gets
across what this thing is about.
Because way before computers were even invented, the British
oligarchs had these ideas. And Wells was working, as our
research has come out, on the idea of the inevitability of
globalization, and creating one human culture, one world that
just submits to "we-ness."
And at the same time Wells was living, Vernadsky was also
living. Vernadsky was looking at the same technologies, the same
types of resources as the world of Wells, but thinking totally
differently. Vernadsky's last writing, according to Matt, was in
praise of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. And as people know, he was
talking about nuclear power plants, and electrifying Russia.
So, Matt was thinking of a certain polemic or an article
that he's working on with a couple others, that'll be titled
something like "The Blogosphere versus the Noosphere: H.G. Wells,
Wikipedia, and the World Brain." So that'll be good.
Now, Cody spoke up at this point and said, to get at this
thing with Wiener, he found the book {Cybernetics}, a second
edition, where he mentioned that what Wiener is really attacking,
and what he says he's attacking, is the idea of {Sphaerics}. And
Wiener especially says, what we need now, because of the
mathematics that we have, of this kind of random statistical
analysis that he was doing with objects in motion of different
types--we no longer trigonometric functions, and spherical
geometry--which is exactly what the Basement crew is working on
right now. And what Cody brought up, is that what Wiener is
really therefore attacking is the exact arc of development that
Lyndon LaRouche is so crucial to the development of any
civilization. This arc from the Egyptians and the Pythagoreans
and the work on {Sphaerics}, through Cusa, Kepler, Leibniz, and
so on, to Riemann, and to LaRouche, today: that tradition in
science. And that's what he was saying is no longer needed, it
can all be reduced to this statistical analysis, which he and
others stole from preceding lackeys of the oligarchy.
Now, at that point, Dave said some very useful things, which
are kind of foundational for how we're going to attack this
cybernetics thing: He's been looking at this whole thing about
"ensna," [ph] which is "social networking for networking social
processes," or whatever it's called. And these guys were even
conscious at these cybernetics conferences, Dave pointed out,
that the term "cybernetics" in the Greek origin of it, actually
means "helmsman." And these guys at these conferences discussed
the idea that they were going to be the "helmsmen" of
civilization. You had this individual, Lord Haley, who talked
about having "indirect rule," as opposed to "direct rule,"
physical troops. And these guys were developing a whole new kind
of sophisticated school of control, where they were working on
tribal control, something that came to be known as "change
agents," where you would have individuals manipulated within
these tribes, like in Africa and different places, that the
British would go in there and create these things; where you have
individuals inside the tribes who would act as these "change
agents," to subtly kind of control the thinking and to direct and
manipulate and steer, the thinking of the herd as a whole, or the
society which became the herd. But so, you didn't actually need
an oligarch right there. you could just have brainwashed or
controlled individuals, who controlled everyone else, which was
accepted.
And Dave pointed out, they also developed this thing of an
"ego network" which would isolate and eliminate all
"authoritarian personalities," to create this "we-ness." So, he
said, the whole cybernetics conference, the whole epistemology
for the basis of it, was already laid by these crazy British
schemes. And the point was to use and develop computer
technology and software, that would allow you to make a
transition from this manipulation of tribes into just an internet
culture that could do the same thing.
Now, someone else brought up at this point, that it's
popular today, this whole saying that "information is power." If
you look at blogs, and wikipedia and all this stuff, "information
is power." And it was brought up, that really, truly,
"information" the way it's looked at today, is an attack on
power. And Wiener brings this up, also in his silly book
{Cybernetics}, where he claims Kepler was just an extension of
Brahe. And Brahe's data and Brahe's information was, in a sense,
what created Kepler. Which obviously isn't true. Because you
could ask, as Michelle Lerner in an article on this, then why
didn't Brahe make the discoveries? Why did we need Kepler to do
it? Because there was a quality of thinking there, that Brahe
lacked.
Another element that was brought up in the discussion, was
the interesting problem that most people believe that there's a
dichotomy: On one side of our culture, you have the nerds, the
math-geeks, and the mathematicians, and on the other side, you
have the hippies. But actually, there's a complete interface
between the networks that created LSD, and created the
rock-drug-sex counterculture, into the cybernetics movement: You
have people like Gregory Bateson, Margaret Mead, and these folks
who were working the rock-drug-sex counterculture, all became
huge endorsers of cybernetics. Timothy Leary even went so far as
to say: LSD has been too limited in its effects that we had
intended, but cybernetics won't be. And this is the way to go.
So, this idea of MySpace is obviously something that existed
before computers.
Then Dave was making the point that when you look at
MySpace, when you look at Facebook, and you look at Ancestry.com,
any of these stupid websites, these are all just particular spins
on an underlying British imperial philosophy of social and
psychological control: {mind control}. It's just a new
development in an ancient type of method. And that these things
have been marketed out, they were developed by these conferences
and cybernetics groups, and then they were put on the market and
sold. So you have Bill Gates buying up--this perverted Bill
Gates, we need to do a lot of work on him, yet--buying up
Facebook. Now, he's got a little bit of control over a
plantation here or there, or he's controlling this clique of
society. But all of these things are controlled by an underlying
problem.
The last point, to tie some of this together, which was
interesting that Cody and Dave both brought up in the discussion
at the end, was this role of the strange, oligarchical George
Shultz. If you look at Shultz, that he represents many sides of
this strange operation: He studied actually at MIT, originally,
under Kurt Lewin, and there he got the entire cybernetics
brainwashing. His father was Earl Burl, etc. in the oligarchical
circles, the economic hit men circles--and he went to the
University of Chicago, George Shultz did, after MIT, and studied
under Milton Friedman, where he got the crazy economics. Now:
This is the guy coming out of MIT and University of Chicago, that
as we know, is the guy that dismantled the Bretton Woods system
under Nixon in 1971. And what Dave mentioned, which is something
we need to do more research on called, Cybersin [ph], that in
Chile, during the Pinochet coup against Allende, there was a
major investment in this group called Cybersin, into something
called Telex. These guys were intending on making Chile into the
first internet economy, apparently, at that time. And Telex, at
that time, was the form of what they were developing for a
certain internet-style communication, in Chile, which actually
facilitated this coup, and was part of the actual operation of
running the Pinochet coup.
So you have George Shultz, and Rohatyn, who as we know were
giving the "barking orders" for this thing, who are running the
green operation, the "carbon capping," the depopulation
associated with that; the Schwarzenegger operation in California,
the Pelosi operation in the Congress, and the control of youth
with cybernetics and these different things. And you have
something there, that you find that these things are not
different problems, or all different universes.
But as Lyn's been saying, we have one enemy, where these
things come from. So, we have to get people out of MySpace, so
they can think and be in reality, and get our society back in
advancing and developing, and getting people out of poverty.
So that's what we have.

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