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Author: Knut Holt |
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Date Posted: 12:54:00 03/15/18 Thu CASE REPORTS TO BE FOUND BELOW THE LINKS Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood By Knut Holt http://www.abicana.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. If the lonks are not active, please copy them and use them in the address fields of your browser. ----------------------------------------------------- Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings: http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395 ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults: http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327 --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults: http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976 ------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam: http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807 ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524 ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Americans- please tell in my unbiased poll who you would vote for if rhe presidential election was today http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/621050 ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions. Knut Holt aquila_grande@yahoo.no http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm ------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED ----------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------- Girls, Eastern Europe, 9,11,13yo, health check with extensive internal inspections I am male. I answer poll as physiscian, not a patient. It happened in Eastern Europem, 1980-1989, on girls 9 years old 11 year old 13 years old. I worked for goverment /state hospital solvakia. Sorry english is not so good. (The language somewhat brushed up under the edition). It happened as a routine health check with data collection on random girls selected from local city with parents. They were checked and used to represent whole country as example. Although no force was used it was compuslary in the sense that if they did not come when selected, state healthcare and benefits got stopped. The parents drove them to the exam at a regular hospital. PREPARATIONS They were not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They were given a gown but were naked under the gown in the time they stayed awake and had to take all clothes off just before the procedures. When first stripped they were placed on a little metal table like at a morgue. One weighted the patient on it and measure height, and firther wosthed them on this table. The stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into the anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine. (Uncertain from the testamonial if this happened on this table or later) One then then transfered them to opertion table in lithomy position for access to genital and anal opening. It this psoirion they lay on back with legs flexed, spread and mounted upon two devices. They got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm, a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in blood, a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg, electrodes on cheast, a tube or wire in through urethra. They got anesthesia through tubes into blood vessel, anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. One then paralyzed whole body and they got artificial breathing, all of which put them completely to sleep. EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT One performed an EEC (electroencephalogram) - functional test of the brain with electrodes on the head. They used electrodes at chest to record body functions. They performed an analysis of breathing and oxygen uptake where they had to breath into a tube. They examined upper body and hip area with an ultrasound device or something similar. They took x-ray pictures of chest, hip area and limbs. INTERNAL INSPECTIONS IN THE UPPER BODY ZONES AND UPPER DIGESTIVE SYSTEM They inspected the inside of throut with a scope. They took specimens from throut with a tube, throut culture. One performed gastroscopy, OGD, and took samples from stomach. UROGENITAL IMSPECTIONS Done to obtain tissue samples and take measurements. They inspected the inside of urethra and bladder with a scope. They took specimens from urethra with a tube. They took specimens from bladder with a tube. Bladder biopsy taken. The doctor explored vagina with a finger. They used a speculum in vagina. They took specimens from vagina with a tube, vaginal and cervical swabs. ISPECTIONS IN THE LOWER DIGESTIVES SYSTEM Done to obtain tissue samples and take measurements. The doctor explored anus with a finger. They took specimens from anus with a tube. They inspected the girls through anus high up with a flexible scope. Anal biopsy and biopsy from sigmoid and large bowel. ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM The girls had breathing tube, IVs into blood vessels, electrodes on body. They had catheter into bladder left to recovery ward, catheter in situ as protocol following biopsy of bladder. The parents took them home the next day. THE SCHOOL THE GIRLS ATTENED I attended ordinary daytime school. Was regular state funded schools used. COMMENTS This ordeal follows a protocol used for health screening and health statistics on selected kids in selected communities in great parts of the world. The protocoll has a fairly long history, and is still going on, especially in North America, but this testamonial and others tells that Eastern Europe is a part of the enterprize. There are testamonials about the protocoll both from North America, South America, Asia, Western Europe and Eastern Europe, and the political state of the comunteies does not seem to influence the protocoll, which poonts to some international coordination, probably through the United Nations system. ------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------- Girl, 13yo, Russia, extensive pelvic focused development and health check I am female. It happened in Russia, 1980-1989, 13 years old. My parents received a letter saying I was to report to the clinic for a full health exam. This is all we were told. I went there alone by myself. At a health center. It happened to all children of the age group in ny community. PREPARATION, ANESTHESIA AND PRELIMINARY EXAM The letter said I was to wear just a coat and nothing else. It also instructed me not to eat after noon the previous day. As soon as I arrived outside the building my coat was quickly taken from me leaving me totally nude and I was led to a line of other naked children (boys and girls) and from then I was totally naked through the whole ordeal. We were weighed (the nurses tutted at me for having shoes and took them off) and then I was taken into the examination room. I got laxatives to clean out my stomach at the place where the exam took place. They washed my body before the exam. I also got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach, and stomach was cleaned out by a tube incerted into my anus that was connected to some pump and flush mashine. Parts of my body got numbed by a shot with a syringe. I got lubricating and numbing cream into my vagina. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my anus. The anesthesia only took away pain. There were multiple times I was to change position on the table as I was examined. I was placed to lay on my back with streight legs. I was also placed to lay on my stomack with streight legs. I was placed to lay on my right and also on my left side PHYSICAL TESTING After the table examination I was instructed to do a variety of exercises running jumping jacks situps all til I was completely exhausted. I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when ECG and breathing analysis was performed. RADIOLOGIC EXAMINATIONS After that they led me to a room like a studio and put a protective mask over my eyes so they could do x-ray pictures of me. I heard others there with me (I think other kids) but we were asked not to talk. They took chest x-ray pictures. They took x-ray pictures of my hip area. INSPECTIONS WITH INSTRUMENTS INSERTED INTO BODY OPENINGS They used a speculum in my vagina. They inspected me through my anus high up with a flexible scope. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. The doctor explored my anus with a finger. After using it in my vagina they took the speculum out and put it in my mouth to look inside my throat. I asked if that should be and they said you put your fingers in your mouth after touching yourself don't you? it's fine They went on for a long time. The door to the room was open and many people came in and out including other children. ARRANGEMRNTS AFTER THE EXAM I had catheter into my bladder. They drained my bladder completely with the catheter. Had me stay nude in the waiting area for close to an hour afterwards. Only then was my coat given back and I was hurried outside before I could put it back on. They gave me back the wrong shoes (did not fit) and no socks so I had to go home barefoot. I had walked there so I walked back. I attended ordinary daytime school. It was a regular school. COMMENTS Basically this is acomprehensive health and development check performed according to a standardized procedure in selected communities in all parts of the world. It still happens and even more than before. The main purpose of the procedure when done on healthy children is surveillance and research on the young population. But it is also used for check of individual children that the authorities are concerned about. Due to the techical development this protocol now usually also include scoping of the urinary system and colon, and is often done under general anesthesia, so that the kid is not fully aware of what is done always. I suspect some kind of such scoping was done here also, but it is difficult to remembereverything or discern one thing form another. There is not always a good quality controle about how the staff behaves during these ordeals, which can make them feel free to twist the procedure in ways for own sexual gratification and fun, which seem to be the case here. Also whwn many children are included one will often reduce privacy to spare time. Knut Holt http://www.abicana.com/health_unformation.htm ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Boy, 12yo, Cystoscopy and anal inspection for urinary infection I had cystoscopy - I am male.This was my first.The exam took place in North America. Houston Texas. 12 years old. Years 1970-1979. Cystoscopy occured in a hospital.Parents said something like: The doctor shall look at you down in your stomach. PREPARATIONS: Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Got a hospital gown before going to bed. The nurse had me get on a gurney and she pushed me down the hall to a special room on a different floor. The whole bed was rolled with me/she/he upon when the time for the exam had come. Got to a special preparation room. Given enema during preparations.Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure. Nurse noted to the doctor that I had pubic hair and he told her to save it off She got some soap and lathered up my pubic area and shaved off the hair. God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Got a shot to calm down and make sleepy. Was totally naked during exam. Lay on back with legs in stirrups. When I got into the room they scooted me onto a big table and took off my gown so I was completely naked. They hooked me up with various wires The nurse swabbed my penis and groin with iodine which stung. HOW THE EXAM IS REMEMBERED They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra.They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside. After the cystoscopy they put a catheter in my urethra which was hooked to a bag. They inspected anus with a scope.Rolled me on my side with leg bent They stuck a metal tube up my anus It hurt . ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed more that a day after the exam. I had the catheter for two days and could only wear a gown I was in the hospital two more days and could wear pajamas I got shots twice a day while I was there They took urine samples daily DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP Diagnosis - urinary infection. Got mediaction for infection. Had to have a cathetherization routine. REASON AND JUDGEMENT The reason was problems with urination. It was painful.It was humiliating or awful, but still it It was useful. COMMENTS It is standard recommendation in many sources that all boys wich has had symptoms of urinary infection shall have cystosopy. Even though it is seldome told about in public information, the anus, lower colon or the whole colon is nearly always inspected at the same event or a close event. The story does not tell if the boy had such symptoms or that the indection got detected by the exam. The age of 12 is a very common age for boys to have their first cystosocpy. It is possible that this community did this procedure on all boys of that age, or on all boys that had a history of health problems, and that the infection was just detected by the cystosopy. Possibly this also happened to girls. Knut Holt http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Girl, 16yo, Western Europe, Exensive digestive tests for behavior issues I am a female. I was a teenager. My exact age when this occured. 16 Year 1990 - 1999. In western Europe. I was examined in a hospital. EXAM OVERVIEW They examined my organs inside my stomach. They examined my rectal zone. They took x-rays of the examined areas. I was totally naked. ARRANGEMENTS My positions during the exam: laying down in panties soft restraints arms and legs The first thing they did with me:. stripped me to panties put me in bed and soft restraint arms and legs, then eneral exam head neck chest limbs, then start exam of abdomen by listening several doctors at same time, then tapped over my abdomen around my navel one doctor others looked on. Therafter palpation of organs vital first liver kidney spleen stomach bladder. Rgereadter very detailed palpation of intestines small and large literally tried to feel each and every loop. The exam ended by several fluid wave tests over colon stomach and entire abdomen. Please add further comments: intestine exam very meticulos, lasted at least an hour, still feel doctors hand sinking into belly. They did not examne my urinary system. They did not do a genital exam. JUDGEMENT What do you think was the reason for this exam? punishment and research. MORE ABOUT RECTAL AND COLOBIC EXAM They examined my rectum with an inserted finger. They took specimens from my rectum or bowel with some tube-like instrument. They took some measurements inside my rectum or bowel with a long tube-like instrument. They looked in through my rectum with a rigid optical scope. They performed a full colonoscopic exam of my entire bowel. SYMPTOMS AFTER THE EXAM I had strange pain or irritation in my rectal zone and stomach as if my rectum or bowel had been secretly examioned. The exam did not result in any diagnosis. COMMENTS It looks like they were investigating causes in the digestive system of the girl for bad behavior or behavior that was regarded as abnormal or unwanted. There are many accounts pointing to medical projects connecting pelvic and digestive issues to bahavior problems. Possibly this connection was researched in a project that used the girl. This may feel that punishment for the kid involved. ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Boy, North America, cystosocpy combined with examination of anus and colon I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America. dsf 12 years old. Before 1960. Had cystoscopy in a health centre. PREPARATIONS Got no explanation. The exam was a total surprize. sdfg Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Given laxatives at home before the exam. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Given enema during preparations. The whole bed was rolled with me upon when the time for the exam had come. Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure. God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Was totally naked during exam. Lay on back with legs in stirrups. HOW THEY EXAMINED ME They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside. They took out the scope and inserted a new scope to take further specimens. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys. They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the anus to inspect the bladder and genital area. They made an ultrasound exam of the scrotum and testicles. They inspected the whole colon - full colonoscopy. ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed some hours after the exam. Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam. DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP Diagnosis - low bladder capasity. Got mediaction for infection. The reason was problems with urination. JUDGEMENT It was humiliating or awful. COMMENTS What is reportet as a flexible scope was probably a tube used to pump in fluid to test the bladder capacity and reaction. What is reported as full colonoscopy was probably a tibe inserted and inflated to test the reactions in the colon. Flexible scopes were not in use before 1960, and therefore the things reported was probably some other things. Knut Holt http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |