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Date Posted: 01:21:40 10/06/08 Mon
Author: Michael
Subject: Re: Christian - definition of
In reply to: Roger 's message, "Re: Christian - definition of" on 16:03:57 10/04/08 Sat

I like the prayers of St Francis of Assisi

>I tried to stop sinning once, but I gave up. The Jesus
>prayer is the only one I address directly to Jesus.
>Any prayer of asking I make directly to the Father. I
>do occasionally make a prayer request to Mary.
>
>
>>Hmmm... maybe you just outa stop sinning... hahahah!
>>
>>Actually, I pray directly to God ending the prayer in
>>Jesus name because "whatsoever you ask in My name it
>>shall be granted unto you."
>>
>>The sinners prayer can be as simple or as complex as
>>you want to make it. The promise is simple - "whoever
>>calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Rom
>>10:13
>>
>>>If you can say the Creed without crossing your
>>>fingers, you are a Christian, and most denominations
>>>can do that. Is your sinner's prayer the same as my
>>>Jesus Prayer: Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living
>>>God, have mercy on me, a sinner? I use it all the
>>time.
>>>
>>>Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually, it boils down pretty simply. If you pray a
>>>>form of the sinners prayer, which incorporates your
>>>>belief that he is the son of God and that he died
>for
>>>>your sins and ask Him to be your savior, salvation
>is
>>>>yours. The rest of the stuff, although considered
>>>>important, isn't necessary to provide salvation.
>This
>>>>is why different denominations, who interpret the
>>word
>>>>differently, are still saved.
>>>>
>>>>>Whilst thinking about what people believe, I came
>to
>>>>>wonder what Christians are supposed to beleive.
>>>>>Putting aside the evangalicals who declare every
>>word
>>>>>of the bible to be literaly true, I was wondering
>of
>>>>>our 'resident' Christians what they think are
>>>>>necessary beliefs in order to be Christian.
>>>>>Which of these are 'required' beliefs:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Christ was the 'Son of God' (might need to
>define
>>>>>'son')
>>>>>2. Virgin birth
>>>>>3. Christ dying on a cross
>>>>>4. Ressurrection of Christ's body
>>>>>5. Miracles such as water into wine, curing the
>>>blind,
>>>>>lame
>>>>>6. The Holy Ghost (might need to define that)
>>>>>Any others?

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