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Date Posted: 22:32:00 10/04/08 Sat
Author: JennyJenkins
Subject: I'm watching the debate right now, since it is repeated on PBS ... &...
In reply to: HF 's message, "At one point during the debate, I was really angry." on 11:29:14 10/03/08 Fri

they just passed the point of discussing this issue of marriage.

They both said that they are against gay marriage because of personal beliefs, but they both said that they agree that a gay union should have all the same legal rights and benefits that a marriage has between a man and a woman.

The way I see it, right now it is an issue of unions and associations to put into place those equal rights when they renew the contracts for their workers. Once that happens then the marriage certificate that a gay couple gets will have the same legal worth as a hetero couple's. Otherwise, a gay couple would to have a pre-nuptial agreement identifying the benefits, insurances, mortgages, etc, that they are willing to share equally or otherwise, just in case there are legal issues, in case of illnes, etc.

I think that they said that they are against the term "gay marriage" because they don't want to alienate all the religions. As far as I know, pretty well all religions, not just Christian, are against "gay marriage" as they understand what the term "marriage" means to them.

Luckily in Canada, the term gay marriage means the exactly the same as heterosexual marriage, before the courts, so an emplyer can't balk at a person specifying same sex partner as next-of-kin.

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[> [> this is the key point.. -- niki, 07:40:13 10/05/08 Sun [1]

Luckily in Canada, the term gay marriage means the exactly the same as heterosexual marriage, before the courts, so an emplyer can't balk at a person specifying same sex partner as next-of-kin.

Legally we need gay marriage/civil unions/whatever you want to call it to have the same legal rights as marriage. They should be getting the same federal benefits, the same tax benefit/penalties, etc. Anything else is discrimination.


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