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[> [> [> [> Thanks Hogie , nice post - but - -- Jeannine, 15:23:55 10/19/07 Fri [1]

I think you meant to say "childrens". :P

I am always amazed that people don't know the facts behind the things they support. Much easier to condemn an entire group of Americans or swallow the bullshit at HuffPo than to actually educate yourself, I guess.

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[> [> [> [> Welcome to the board Hogarth :-) -- gg, 15:45:21 10/19/07 Fri [1]


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[> [> [> [> None of those statements in the above post... -- scooter, 12:18:20 10/20/07 Sat [1]

about the Frost family are true. Those are lies spread by the right-wing nuts Michelle Malkin and Rush Limbaugh. SCHIP is not for poor people, it is for working families who cannot afford to pay for health care. The Frosts have two children who suffered traumatic brain injuries in a car accident and who need loads of medical treatment and therapy. I guess they should be forced to sell their home (which they paid $55,000 for), and be thrown out on the streets. That would be real "compassionate."

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: None of those statements in the above post... -- Hogarth Kramer, 12:57:25 10/20/07 Sat [1]

The Frost's poor personal decision to take the risk of not buying their own insurance, auto or health, so they could spend the money elsewhere aside, true or false: they were already covered by SCHIP, and would have still been covered by SCHIP under Bush's proposed increase to the SCHIP funding? True, or false? Isn't that the crux of the question as to whether they were appropriate to bring forward as a poster-family for the "evil and greedy" Republicans, and by extension, taxpayers? And once used so cravenly by the Dems, what is exactly wrong with calling them on it?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> What exactly did they do.... -- scooter, 07:22:25 10/21/07 Sun [1]

to justify having their address posted on the internet so they could receive death threats? And have their reputations impugned by people like you? They exercised their right to free speech, and if you listened to what he said, he was trying to say how much they had been helped by SCHIP and they hoped other people could benefit from the program too.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> ahhh, by 'people like you' -- Jeannine, 10:06:15 10/21/07 Sun [1]

I have never issued a death threat against anyone. I have also never put my child out to be exploited by the media. Let me explain something to you, Scooty - they put a cute little sick child out to do their dirty work so that if there was ANY critisism whatsoever they could say ---- who would be so mean to this little angel! They are BAAADDDD people if they say a word! That child was exploited by his parents and the democrat party, PERIOD. As for addresses on the internet? Yours is out there too, you know and neither side holds the patent on sickos.

Doesn't it ever occur to you that there are people out there who do not need MY taxpayer dollars for ever increasing entitlements that never go away?
Where was their concern for their child when they decided to buy another SUV rather than buy decent health insurance?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Just to clarify -- Jeannine, 11:47:06 10/21/07 Sun [1]

regarding addresses on the internet - my point was that EVERYONES address is on the internet. If you don't believe it follow this link and search for yourself.

http://www.zabasearch.com/

Wouldn't want to be accused of making death threats.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Just jumping in here to say that you can have your info. removed from Zabasearch. I did it. -- LAwoman, 13:32:35 10/21/07 Sun [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Attack the messenger -- scooter, 10:20:53 10/22/07 Mon [1]

So, instead of debating the merits of the legislation, the right wing uses its old tried-and-true strategy of attacking and smearing the messenger. (Shades of Michael J. Fox). Dirty work? Explaining how you benefited from a government program is “dirty work?” The facts: The Frosts were legimately qualifed for SCHIP. No one on the left is surprised at how low the right will go to smear people, but most decent people draw the line at children. Right wing bloggers and pundits went insane after the kids gave his speech. They published LIES about the family and publicized their home address, practically inviting the nuts to send death threats. (Michelle Malkin actually drove to their house.) Rush Limbaugh went on Hannity and Colmes and mocked the kid’s voice (the kid with a paralyzed vocal cord). Classy. Seventy-five percent of the people in this country supported the proposal to extend the SCHIP program. Any exploitation of that kid came from the right. And did you ever think that some of US don’t mind paying taxes for programs that help people, especially children?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Well, you aren't limited in paying the amount of taxes required, you know -- Jeannine, 15:19:17 10/22/07 Mon [1]

you can always send extra money to the IRS, or refuse to take the refund you are owed, if you are. If you want to pay more taxes, go ahead. Personally, I pay enough. I DO help people, in many ways. I prefer to do it myself, rather than depend on the government to do so. I am funny that way - I think government should govern.

As usual, you are exagerating and speaking in sweeping generalizations that invalidate any point you may have. You are in luck, though. You have the perfect candidate out there - Hillary sure sound like she is your girl.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> As usual, you're wrong -- scooter, 08:51:59 10/23/07 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Am not -- Jeannine, 09:48:40 10/23/07 Tue [1]


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