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Date Posted: 17:32:42 01/12/19 Sat
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: Polls about things authorities do to children at school sand institutions



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Interesting research polls about strange or intrusive medical and psycological exams or procedures kids and adults are subjected to. You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. The polls already have a lot of interesting testamonials you can read and comment upon.

If the links are not active, you can copy them and use them in the address line of your browser where they will work.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/625773

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

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THE LATEST RESULTS FROM MY POLLS

Boy, North America pelvic and other internal inspections at all ages from 3 to 18.

I am male.. It happened in North America om the period 1980-1999, every year from age 2 to 18, except age 12.

My parent took me to the hospital to have the exam each year. My parents drove me to the exam at a special establishment used for these type of exams. All children with some kind of health problem had the exam.


PREPARATIONS

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. They washed me before the exam. I was totally naked through alll the procedures. The staff took my clothes of some time before the anesthesia had made its effect, or had to strip totally naked before the exam depending on my age.

They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got electrodes on my cheast and on my stomach and hip region.

I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. I was put completely to sleep, but I woke up ocationally during the procedure despite anesthesia given.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They examined me with an ultrasound device or something similar at my head and neck, upper body, stomach area, shoulder area, hip area and genitals.

They took x-ray pictures of my chest, stomach, shoulder area, hip area and my limbs.

They used electrodes on my head, chest and belly to record body functions.



INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They ispected the inside of my nose with a scope. They inspected the inside of my throut with a scope.

They inspected the inside of my urethra and bladder with a scope. They inspected my anus with a speculum.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had IVs into blood vessels. I just lay some time in a bed to recover. I lay naked under a blanket after the exam. I stayed in the hospital overnight until my parent came to get me.

I went to some school for kids with special needs.


COMMENTS

This looks a standardized procedure used on children in selected societies in all parts of the World and it seems to be coordiated by an international unit, possibly WHO, and it occurs more now than ever.

There are certain details in this procedure not told about in this account, but that I am almost sure also happened, but probably not remembered due to the anesthesia. Those are: Inspection of the colon with a scope, inspection with a scope down into the upper stomach and inspection of the pelvic area with a sond inserted into the anus. Inspection up into each kidney also probably happened.

The procedure has gone on for several decades, but it is steadily extended and modernized with new equipment. In spite of how common it is, it is mostly not told about to the public, and when it occurs, it often comes as a surprize both to parents and the child.

Some societies uses it on all children, others on childen with special concerns, and still others on a selected percentage of children. Curiously some societies does it mostly on the boys, but others mostly on the girls.

6-7yo, 11-12yo and 15-16yo are typical ages for the procedure. But children attending schools for those with special needs tend to have it more often, but all parts of the procedure may not occur everyu time.

The purpose of the procedure is surveillance of the young population, research and screening for diseases and abnormalities. Often they also take out tissue, probably to be used in research, for production of vaccines or to use in treatment of other patients.

It would be interesting if the repondent could comment more about the exams and arrangements in the procedure at the age 7, age 11 and at the age 18, so if the answarer reads this please comment on these ages especially, since it will give a lot of interesting information about the development of the procedure.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com



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Girl, 12yo, Washington, internal inspections in all body parts.

I am female. It happened in North America, Washington. 1990-1999, 12 years old. I was told nothing more then I have a check up with my dr.
I had gotten my period and was told I need a check up. My parents drove me to the exam. At a doctors office. A selected percentage of the children in my school of the age group had the test.


PREPARATIONS

They washed me before the exam. I was given a gown but was naked under the gown in the time I stayed awake. They placed me upon a simple examination table. They also placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.

I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon the two devices. I was placed to lay on my left side. I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm.

I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a leg. I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. Parts of my body got numbed by a shot with a syringe. I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening.


The anesthesia worked somewhat differnetly at various parts of the procedure: Some time took away pain and made me relaxed but I was conscious. Other time he anesthesia made me sleep mostly but I woke up occationally.

It was a standard exam until I got a shot I felt numb and spaces out
. This is when I was taken through to a different area of the building. It was more like an operating theater.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They took chest x-ray pictures. They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They took specimens from my throut with a tube.

They inserted a scope through my urethra and inspected my bladder. Through that scope they also inserted a tube to take specimens.

They used a speculum in my vagina. They took specimens from my vagina with a tube. They inspected my vagina with a scope. They inspected me through my vagina with an ultrasound probe. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger.

The doctor explored my anus with a finger. They inspected me through my anus with a rigid scope. I remember a deep burning presure and humiliation.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I had IVs into blood vessels. I had catheter into my bladder. I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. I then lay naked under a blanket after the exam. Mom drove me home.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school. Regular state run.

COMMENTS

This is a standardized procedure used on children in selected societies in all parts of the World and it seems to be coordiated by an international unit, possibly WHO, and it occurs more now than ever. It has gone on for several decades, but it is steadily extended and modernized with new equipment. In spite of how common it is, it is mostly not told about to the public, and when it occurs, it often comes as a surprize both to parents and the child. 6-7yo, 11-12yo and 15-16yo are typical ages for the procedure.

Some societies uses it on all children, others on childen with special concerns, and still others on a selected percentage of children. Curiously some societies does it mostly on the boys, but others mostly on the girls. Some uses it on girls when they have got their first period.

The purpose of the procedure is surveillance of the young population, research and screening for diseases and abnormalities. Often they also take out tissue, probably to be used in research, for production of vaccines or to use in treatment of other patients.

Possibly they also used a flexible scope through her anus to inspect the whole of her colon, and a flexible scope all the way through her mouth down in her stopmach, but was unconscious during these tests.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com



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Girl 11,12yo, gynecologic and puberty assesment at home


I am female. It happened in Eastern Europe in 1980-1989 as 11 year old and 12 years old. My step-dad told me a doctor was coming to our house to give me a physical exam. I'd just started puberty and he said the exam was required by school. I was told to take a bath before the doctor arrived. I was given an enema and I was dressed in my pajamas. I was also told the exam would be thorough and different from others I'd had. The exam occurred at home.

This exam was set up by my step-father so I was the only one to have the exam. The exam was conducted in our kitchen with just my step-father the doctor and myself.


ARRANGEMENTS

A soft blanket was placed on the kitchen table and I laid on it for parts of the exam. Two chairs were placed at each the end of the table to support my legs for part of the exam. I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach.

I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon the two chairs. I did not get any anesthesia apart from lubricating and numbing cream into my vagina.


BREAST EXAM

After the normal parts of the exam I was required to take off my pajama top (I didn't wear a bra at that time).

The doctor looked at my breast which were very tiny at that time and then felt them with his hands. He did this with me standing and again while lying on my back.


ANAL EXAM

I was allowed to put my top back on, then told to remove my pajama pants and panties.

I was placed on my hands and knees on the table with my head down and bottom up. My temperature was taken in my bottom.

After that the doctor looked closely at my anal area inserted a finger and felt around for a bit then used a small scope to look inside. They took specimens from my anus with a tube.

My step-father was watching all this very closely. He also asked the doctor to spread my vulva in this position for a look at my openings and hymen.


GYNECOLOGICAL EXAMINATION

My position was changed so that I was lying on my back on the kitchen table (with the blanket under me). My bottom was placed at the edge of the table and the chairs were placed so that my feet could rest on them. Again I was nude from the waist down and my legs were wide apart. An exam light was set up so my female area was well lit. The doctor did an extensive examination of my outer labia by looking and feeling with his fingers. He applied a lot of clear lubricant to my vaginal opening so that he could insert a finger. It hurt too much so he couldn't. Instead he inserted a finger into my bottom and felt around for quite some time.

He had a very small scope like a tube with a handle that he inserted into my vagina. It hurt a little but I was able to stay in place. The scope was lighted so I'm sure he saw everything he needed to see. My step-dad also looked inside and commented on how my cervix was.


TEST OF PHYSIOLOGICAL REACTIONS

The next part was less medical. My top was removed so that I was completely nude. I was told that the last part was to see if my reproductive system was developing normally and without problems. (My step-dad had caught me masturbating twice before). My step-dad was told to use lotion on my chest and to rub my breasts to see if there was a response. The doctor continued to look at my vulva. The result was positive I began breathing harder and I did become wet. After drying my vulva off and allowing me to recover the doctor proceeded to rub different parts of my vulva to look for a response.

Almost everything he did resulted in my becoming excited. I was eventually allowed to dress for bed. My step-dad was told that I was developing normally and that I had well developed sexual response. He was given a tube of cream and told to run it into my vulva if I had any redness or soreness.


ARRANGEMENT AFTER THE EXAM

I went to bed. A bit sore the next morning. My step-dad used the cream on me several times a week. My temperature was always taken rectally so I was comfortable with him doing it. Usually after my bath. I'd either be place over his lap bottom exposed so he could apply the cream or on my hands and knees....with my bottom up. I had several more exams like the one I described during the next two years.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I went to some other type of school. I attended a private school where gifted children went and also participate in gymnastics.


COMMENTS

It is probably true that the exam was required by the school. The stepfather had probably got the obligation to watch for development signs and to report those, so that the exam could be done at the right time. The interest the stepfather showed was also probably because of that obligation.

Many societies subject children to such exams at certain development steps, and especially schools with gymnastics at the curriculum, because these schools tend to regulate the development of kids to be the best possible for copetition results. The tests of sexual reactions also seem to have that purpose.

The fact that the exam was done at home, was probably because they examined many kids this way, and they tried to overcome as many as possible in a short time, and with as little costs as possible.

Even though the things done was probably of order from the school, the doctor and stepfather might still have chosen a style of conducting it that gave them sexual gratification.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com

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Girl, 13yo, North America, combined psychological and pelvic assessments

I am a female. This happened in North America 5 times in the late 1980es and beginning of 1990es, first time when I was 13 years old. I was examined in a health centre, taken there by mom in her car. A psychiatrist did the exam with my mom helping. Several other persons were also present in the waiting room.


OVERVIEW OF THE EXAMINATIONS PERFORMED

They examined my genitals. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones. They performed a psychological exam. They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life.

They also spent a lot of time looking at my feet and toenails.


ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked. I was very embarrassed to be naked in front of the psychiatrist and my mom


THE EXAM STEP BY STEP

Right in the waiting room my mom pulled my dress off and took my sandals. The room was half full Then waited several minutes, then brought me to the exam room. Then held my arms and legs so the psychiatrist could see all of my body openly. They then took measurements of my arms and legs, breasts land labia with photos. Thereafter did a full pelvic exam. They also did a breast exam.

I was placed out in the waiting room again naked and told not to cover myself.


JUDGEMENT

What do you think was the reason for this exam? I think because I told my mom I didn't want to wear sandals or let people see my feet What is your opinion about thios experience? I can't believe how many people saw me totally naked!


GENITAL AND URINARY EXAM

They did not examine my urinary system. They palpated my outer female genitals. They spread my genital lips to look inside. They also asked me to masturbate so they could collect a fluid sample but I was too embarrassed.

They spread my cheeks and examined extarnelly my rectal zone.


PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM

The psychological part covered a lot of weird subjects. I can't even talk about it all.


FOLLOW-UPS

New exams as follow up please specify: I was brought to this same clinic 5 more times over 3 years Psychological or social counceling as follow up: each exam seemed to spend more time focusing on my changing body and how I felt about it. Other kind of follow-up: mom started coming in my room a lot while I was changing saying she needed to see my body.



COMMENTS

It looks like this exam sequence was an investigation of possible sexual abuse of the girl or participation of the girl in abusive bahavior with other children.

From that time and onwards there have been massive campains going on towards parents telling that any unusual behavior was sign of abusive relationships, and parents were told to report.

But this grossly exaggerated propaganda also seem to have the purpose to get as many children reported as possible, so that they can be used in research projects. It looks that this also was a research project regarding the connection between body development and psychological reactions.

The ages of the people in the waiting room are not told, but these were probably observers from the project, the child protective services and the police that made their notes.

If there were children in the waiting room, however, they were probably examined likewise in other rooms, but somebody surely observed how the naked children bahved together.

The mother also seems to have got involved as a helper in the project.

Over and over again there are reports that authorities investigating child abuse bring children into embarrassing situations as a part of the investigation to get results, and this is just one more of these cases. It always looks like they care more for the intergrity of the social framework of society, than for the wellfare of the child.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Girl 10yo, North America, pediatric gynecology exam for research and teach

I am female. It happened in North America. 1990-1999 10 years old Nothing was said more then that I had a check up booked. My parents drove me to the exam. Other type of place. Other selection criteria. It was a clinic exam room / theatre type place in a university.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA

I was not allowed to eat some time before the exam. I got a traditional enema before the exam to clean out my stomach. I mostly only had my underwear on the time I stayed awake. I had to take all my clothes off just before I got anesthesia. They placed me upon an advanced surgical table. I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices.

I got IVs tubes into blood vessels in an arm. I got a device on a finger or a toe to measure pulse and oxygen in my blood. I got a blood pressure monitor wrapped around an arm or a toe.

I got electrodes on my cheast. I got a tube or wire in through my urethra. I got anesthesia through tubes into my blood vessels. I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask. I got some numbing and lubricating cream injected into my urinary opening. The anesthesia made me relaxed but I was conscious. The anesthesia made me sleep mostly but I woke up occationally.

I remember laying on the bed the mask was over my face and they injected into the cannula in my arm. Before it took effect someone grabbed my legs and spread me in the stirrups didn't wait till I was under.


EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an ECG, functional test of the heart function with electrodes on my chest and other body areas. They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device.


INTERNAL INSPECTIONS

They took specimens from my urethra with a tube. They took specimens from my bladder with a tube. They used a speculum in my vagina. They took specimens from my vagina with a tube. They inspected my vagina with a scope. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTERTHE EXAM

I had IVs into blood vessels. I had electrodes on my body. I had catheter into my bladder. I lay naked under a blanket after the exam. Given hospital disposable panties with a thick pad to wear.


THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school.


COMMENTS

This was a standard pediatric gynecology examintion, but probably combined with a cystoscopy and a sigmoidoscopy during the time she was not awake.

The purpose seems to be research and teaching of students. Her parents possibly got money for letting the douhgter be used this way, or free medical services. The EEG might also be for teaching. Of course the ordeal also served as a health check that many kids in that age go through in sertain societiesm but very little spoken about.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com

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