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Is this how you treat your children? -- Rodger Tutt (http://www.tentmaker.org), 13:08:04 07/13/08 Sun [1]

Is this how you treat your children?

When I was seven my stepmother lit a fire in a beaker and said to me, "If you don't open your heart's door to Jesus and invite Him in, God is going to put you into a fire much bigger and hotter than that after you die and He will never ever let you get out of it.”
So in my heart I prayed the way she said that I had to.

Awhile later she said it's obvious that you still are not saved because you are still such a bad boy.
At that point in time I felt totally hopeless, and I was sure that God had given up on me.

My Dad used to beat me with a bamboo cane repeatedly shouting "In Jesus Name, in Jesus Name," until the welts on my legs would bleed. He told me that it was easy to tell at an early age that I was going to go to hell.

Then they both sent me away to a foster home because they could no longer cope with my bad behavior. My real mother had died giving birth to me. My Dad's second wife had died at child birth too but the child did not live either.

So at the age of seven I became convinced that everyone had given up on me, including God.

Later, at the age of 28 (I'm 69 now) I began a twelve year nervous breakdown over my inability to successfully emotionally cope with the idea that God lets any creature suffer forever. I was only able to recover by gradually learning that there are no verses in the Bible that teach endless suffering in hell for anyone. See

http://www.tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html

From Rodger Tutt in Toronto, Canada
“That God may be All in all” 1Cor.15:28

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[> Re: Is this how you treat your children? -- Tami, 23:00:08 03/24/14 Mon [1]


>I think how your parents treated you was very wrong! No 7 year old should be told they are going to hell and neither should they be whipped until they bleed! I hope you have found peace, I know God loves you and he never gives up on us! God bless you!

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Teenage Spanking Problems -- Brian P, 13:24:57 02/22/08 Fri [7]

I'd like some help please with a discipline problem. I'm a father of twins, a boy and a girl, both 16 now. I lost their mother some years ago, but I've recently remarried to a lady with two daughters, aged 15 and 13. We both believe in spanking as a last resort punishment and agreed before we married that we'd continue with corporal punishment when necesary, but hoping, of course that it wouldn't be necessary. But we never got around to sorting out the details, and now it's causing some friction.

There are two areas on which we disagree and I'd really value some help from anyone who has any relevant experience.

Firstly, although I've used spanking as an "ultimate deterrent" for both my children, when I've had to actually carry out the threat, I've always been more lenient with my dayghter than my son. I normally spank my daughter over my knee with just the flat of my hand or, very rarely, a slipper either on her bare bottom or through her panties. With my son, though, I always either slipper or belt his bare bottom, and I do it harder than I do with my daughter.

My wife says that is wrong and that I should treat them both identically. She points to the fact that my daughter needs to be spanked more often than my son as evidence that I am too soft on her. What do you think?

The second problem is that my wife is now saying that, as the man of the house, I should take over the job of spanking her daughters when necessary. She always spanks their bare bottoms, which I think is OK, but it does create difficulties for me. I don't have a problem spanking my own daughter's bare botom (and neither does she), but I'm not sure that I should be doing that to girls for whom I'm not the natural father. So I'd like to hear other people's opinion on this as well please.

Hopefully they'll all behave themselves and this discussion will turn out to be academic. But I'd like to have the problem resolved before any spanking is needed, and my wife's eldest daughter is already looking like she'll be needing one before much longer.

Thank you.

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[> Re: Teenage Spanking Problems -- Brian P, 13:25:41 02/22/08 Fri [1]

>I'd like some help please with a discipline problem.
>I'm a father of twins, a boy and a girl, both 16 now.
>I lost their mother some years ago, but I've recently
>remarried to a lady with two daughters, aged 15 and
>13. We both believe in spanking as a last resort
>punishment and agreed before we married that we'd
>continue with corporal punishment when necesary, but
>hoping, of course that it wouldn't be necessary. But
>we never got around to sorting out the details, and
>now it's causing some friction.
>
>There are two areas on which we disagree and I'd
>really value some help from anyone who has any
>relevant experience.
>
>Firstly, although I've used spanking as an "ultimate
>deterrent" for both my children, when I've had to
>actually carry out the threat, I've always been more
>lenient with my dayghter than my son. I normally spank
>my daughter over my knee with just the flat of my hand
>or, very rarely, a slipper either on her bare bottom
>or through her panties. With my son, though, I always
>either slipper or belt his bare bottom, and I do it
>harder than I do with my daughter.
>
>My wife says that is wrong and that I should treat
>them both identically. She points to the fact that my
>daughter needs to be spanked more often than my son as
>evidence that I am too soft on her. What do you think?
>
>The second problem is that my wife is now saying that,
>as the man of the house, I should take over the job of
>spanking her daughters when necessary. She always
>spanks their bare bottoms, which I think is OK, but it
>does create difficulties for me. I don't have a
>problem spanking my own daughter's bare botom (and
>neither does she), but I'm not sure that I should be
>doing that to girls for whom I'm not the natural
>father. So I'd like to hear other people's opinion on
>this as well please.
>
>Hopefully they'll all behave themselves and this
>discussion will turn out to be academic. But I'd like
>to have the problem resolved before any spanking is
>needed, and my wife's eldest daughter is already
>looking like she'll be needing one before much longer.
>
>Thank you.

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[> [> Re: Teenage Spanking Problems -- Billy, 09:47:35 01/19/09 Mon [1]

>>I'd like some help please with a discipline problem.
>>I'm a father of twins, a boy and a girl, both 16 now.
>>I lost their mother some years ago, but I've recently
>>remarried to a lady with two daughters, aged 15 and
>>13. We both believe in spanking as a last resort
>>punishment and agreed before we married that we'd
>>continue with corporal punishment when necesary, but
>>hoping, of course that it wouldn't be necessary. But
>>we never got around to sorting out the details, and
>>now it's causing some friction.
>>
>>There are two areas on which we disagree and I'd
>>really value some help from anyone who has any
>>relevant experience.
>>
>>Firstly, although I've used spanking as an "ultimate
>>deterrent" for both my children, when I've had to
>>actually carry out the threat, I've always been more
>>lenient with my dayghter than my son. I normally spank
>>my daughter over my knee with just the flat of my hand
>>or, very rarely, a slipper either on her bare bottom
>>or through her panties. With my son, though, I always
>>either slipper or belt his bare bottom, and I do it
>>harder than I do with my daughter.
>>
>>My wife says that is wrong and that I should treat
>>them both identically. She points to the fact that my
>>daughter needs to be spanked more often than my son as
>>evidence that I am too soft on her. What do you think?
>>
>>The second problem is that my wife is now saying that,
>>as the man of the house, I should take over the job of
>>spanking her daughters when necessary. She always
>>spanks their bare bottoms, which I think is OK, but it
>>does create difficulties for me. I don't have a
>>problem spanking my own daughter's bare botom (and
>>neither does she), but I'm not sure that I should be
>>doing that to girls for whom I'm not the natural
>>father. So I'd like to hear other people's opinion on
>>this as well please.
>>
>>Hopefully they'll all behave themselves and this
>>discussion will turn out to be academic. But I'd like
>>to have the problem resolved before any spanking is
>>needed, and my wife's eldest daughter is already
>>looking like she'll be needing one before much longer.
>>
>>Thank you.

All naughty children should be spanked on the bare bottom, period. You either believe in spanking or you don't. And if you do, you're obliged to show your thanks to Mother Nature by putting your child's barenaked backside across your knee for a good old-fashioned, remedial reddening.

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[> [> [> Re: Teenage Spanking Problems -- sonny, 01:31:41 05/20/11 Fri [1]

I am a mother of a 15 and 16 yr old girls and my husand don' want to Do the spanking, so he helps me by holding them down. First her arms, than her feet. Our girls won't hold still so that works on our
family. But yes spank them. Try it our way. Bare butt with a wooden spoon. They will thank you. My girls do after

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[> [> Re: Teenage Spanking Problems -- jack, 17:11:53 01/02/11 Sun [1]

>>I'd like some help please with a discipline problem.
>>I'm a father of twins, a boy and a girl, both 16 now.
>>I lost their mother some years ago, but I've recently
>>remarried to a lady with two daughters, aged 15 and
>>13. We both believe in spanking as a last resort
>>punishment and agreed before we married that we'd
>>continue with corporal punishment when necesary, but
>>hoping, of course that it wouldn't be necessary. But
>>we never got around to sorting out the details, and
>>now it's causing some friction.
>>
>>There are two areas on which we disagree and I'd
>>really value some help from anyone who has any
>>relevant experience.
>>
>>Firstly, although I've used spanking as an "ultimate
>>deterrent" for both my children, when I've had to
>>actually carry out the threat, I've always been more
>>lenient with my dayghter than my son. I normally spank
>>my daughter over my knee with just the flat of my hand
>>or, very rarely, a slipper either on her bare bottom
>>or through her panties. With my son, though, I always
>>either slipper or belt his bare bottom, and I do it
>>harder than I do with my daughter.
>>
>>My wife says that is wrong and that I should treat
>>them both identically. She points to the fact that my
>>daughter needs to be spanked more often than my son as
>>evidence that I am too soft on her. What do you think?
>>
>>The second problem is that my wife is now saying that,
>>as the man of the house, I should take over the job of
>>spanking her daughters when necessary. She always
>>spanks their bare bottoms, which I think is OK, but it
>>does create difficulties for me. I don't have a
>>problem spanking my own daughter's bare botom (and
>>neither does she), but I'm not sure that I should be
>>doing that to girls for whom I'm not the natural
>>father. So I'd like to hear other people's opinion on
>>this as well please.
>>
>>Hopefully they'll all behave themselves and this
>>discussion will turn out to be academic. But I'd like
>>to have the problem resolved before any spanking is
>>needed, and my wife's eldest daughter is already
>>looking like she'll be needing one before much longer.
>>
>>Thank you.


Spank the girls as if they were your own, they need it and there is nothing wrong with you spanking them up to 18

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[> [> Re: Teenage Spanking Problems -- Pete, 14:35:16 10/21/12 Sun [1]

You should not treat your step-daughters differently from your biological kids. You are the man of the house and have authority here. You've seen naked girls before, it won't hurt you to see these two that way.

>>I'd like some help please with a discipline problem.
>>I'm a father of twins, a boy and a girl, both 16 now.
>>I lost their mother some years ago, but I've recently
>>remarried to a lady with two daughters, aged 15 and
>>13. We both believe in spanking as a last resort
>>punishment and agreed before we married that we'd
>>continue with corporal punishment when necesary, but
>>hoping, of course that it wouldn't be necessary. But
>>we never got around to sorting out the details, and
>>now it's causing some friction.
>>
>>There are two areas on which we disagree and I'd
>>really value some help from anyone who has any
>>relevant experience.
>>
>>Firstly, although I've used spanking as an "ultimate
>>deterrent" for both my children, when I've had to
>>actually carry out the threat, I've always been more
>>lenient with my dayghter than my son. I normally spank
>>my daughter over my knee with just the flat of my hand
>>or, very rarely, a slipper either on her bare bottom
>>or through her panties. With my son, though, I always
>>either slipper or belt his bare bottom, and I do it
>>harder than I do with my daughter.
>>
>>My wife says that is wrong and that I should treat
>>them both identically. She points to the fact that my
>>daughter needs to be spanked more often than my son as
>>evidence that I am too soft on her. What do you think?
>>
>>The second problem is that my wife is now saying that,
>>as the man of the house, I should take over the job of
>>spanking her daughters when necessary. She always
>>spanks their bare bottoms, which I think is OK, but it
>>does create difficulties for me. I don't have a
>>problem spanking my own daughter's bare botom (and
>>neither does she), but I'm not sure that I should be
>>doing that to girls for whom I'm not the natural
>>father. So I'd like to hear other people's opinion on
>>this as well please.
>>
>>Hopefully they'll all behave themselves and this
>>discussion will turn out to be academic. But I'd like
>>to have the problem resolved before any spanking is
>>needed, and my wife's eldest daughter is already
>>looking like she'll be needing one before much longer.
>>
>>Thank you.

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[> Re: Teenage Spanking Problems -- Josiah Clement, 10:18:48 08/15/08 Fri [1]

Spanking is great and effective thing for young children. But spanking girls after puberty WILL give them social, nerve, and personality disorders. This is common sense. Girls that aren't spanked turn out to have strong personalities. Girls that are spanked are likely to be social misfits in later years. Spanking boys is always fine, but there is no reason for a man hurt a girl. If a girl is spanked it should be by a female and no older than 10. Clothes should always stay on for a spanking. You just can't do that kind of stuff in this modern world.

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[> Re: Teenage Spanking Problems -- Leon Valeur, 08:11:10 04/27/09 Mon [1]

Hi Brian, you posted your question a year ago. Would you please tell me, what you decided / did, and how it worked out? I will be very grateful if you make it possible to learn from your experiences. Yours, Leon Valeur

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spank her bottom soundly -- PJ, 21:03:40 05/01/09 Fri [3]

You need to be willing to pull your daughter's panties down and spank her bare bottom with your hand and a paddle as necessary or she will never reap the true benefits of a spanking. Teenage girls need a firm hand to guide them and unfortunately it usually has to land on their bare behinds a few time before they start to get the message. I spank my own teenage daughter this way and it has proven very effective. I will give her a proper spanking when she needs it and you should do the same. Her misbehavior indicates she is asking you to provide her with the loving discipline she needs, just make suer you aren't too lenient when spanking. Rule of thumb: she should have trouble sitting on her tush the next day.

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[> Re: spank her bottom soundly -- Sharon, 04:11:52 11/05/09 Thu [1]

>When i was a teenage girl, i got into serious trouble several times, which led to my parents setting up a set of guidelines i was to live by such as curfews, chores, grades etc.Breaking these rules or getting into any kind of trouble or misbehaving usually earned me a sound bare bottom spanking. The thought of getting a spanking really made me think twice about my actions . I knew when i crossed the line i would be punished for it. Spanking made a difference in my life for the good.

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[> [> Re: spank her bottom soundly -- Jack Masterson, 10:25:57 06/22/12 Fri [1]

Absolutely right! Gratifying to know you had such good parents. Would enjoy getting to know more about your sound upbringing--feel free to YM or email me at the address above. Best, Jack

>>When i was a teenage girl, i got into serious trouble
>several times, which led to my parents setting up a
>set of guidelines i was to live by such as curfews,
>chores, grades etc.Breaking these rules or getting
>into any kind of trouble or misbehaving usually earned
>me a sound bare bottom spanking. The thought of
>getting a spanking really made me think twice about my
>actions . I knew when i crossed the line i would be
>punished for it. Spanking made a difference in my life
>for the good.

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[> [> Re: spank her bottom soundly -- Jack Masterson, 10:27:18 06/22/12 Fri [1]

YM spanking_jack

>>When i was a teenage girl, i got into serious trouble
>several times, which led to my parents setting up a
>set of guidelines i was to live by such as curfews,
>chores, grades etc.Breaking these rules or getting
>into any kind of trouble or misbehaving usually earned
>me a sound bare bottom spanking. The thought of
>getting a spanking really made me think twice about my
>actions . I knew when i crossed the line i would be
>punished for it. Spanking made a difference in my life
>for the good.

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God is the absolute reality hence invisible -- dattaswami, 07:36:35 12/20/09 Sun [1]

God is the absolute reality hence invisible
The unimaginable concept of God is not from the side of God. It is only from your side since it is your defect. Your imagination cannot transcend the dimensions of space to understand God, who is beyond space, being the creator of space.
God is the absolute reality and the space along with consequent creation is a relative reality. This point keeps God beyond space. This point cannot be sacrificed because the creation including space can be possible and under the full control of God only, if God alone is the absolute reality. If both God and creation are absolute realities, the control of God on creation becomes impossible. If both are absolute realities, you can see God in the space itself. But, there cannot be two absolute realities. Absolute reality can be one only. Otherwise, there is no possibility of creation. The concept of creation comes into the picture only when one absolute reality exists and creates the relative reality.
A real rope cannot create a real snake. A real rope can create a false snake as an illusion. Therefore, to see the absolute God, you have to make the world as another absolute reality and in such case the creation becomes impossible. All this is the technical difficulty in the process of creation and hence it is inevitable. If you understand this analysis, you will not mistake God as sadist troubling you by hiding Himself. All this analysis is given by Shankara.
[All these information are regarding the absolute God, but such God comes in human form to allow us to see Him, through the human incarnation]
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

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spank your daughter -- valli, 12:44:59 08/16/09 Sun [1]

My husband spanks out teen daughter "as needed" and we plan to continue to do so as long as she in under our care and her behavior warrants it. She is spanked with her panties down and with a paddle after a thorough bottom warming by hand. Her behind is quite red and sore when he is through and she is a changed young lady. When she is approaching the line of needing this discipline, she is asked if she needs an "attitude adjustment". We find in our household, the paddle does this wonderfully. I am proud of my husband for having the courage to still spank our daughter because she needs his firm hand to guide her and sometimes to do that it has to be applied to her backside!

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