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Forgot to add, I hope she is having 2 ballrooms. No way with 4 events she will be able to get the older girls done for the party. Especially when props are allowed for CJ wear. Going to be a big one!!!!! -- No name, 14:24:49 11/06/11 Sun [1]
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oh dear god, not this again. Leave the newbies alone. Plenty of crowns to earn. Don't worry about what someone else chooses to do for their child, just worry about your child. -- No name, 06:03:53 11/08/11 Tue [1]
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Too bad this pageant wasn't for the novice only. I think your right with CK winning mega here. Wish others could have a chance. -- No name, 20:05:12 12/02/11 Fri [1]
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Everyone has a chance. No circuit judges, 50% facial beauty and photos can only count for one optional. -- No name, 22:31:26 12/02/11 Fri [1]
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i agree i think alot of kids will have a chance at this one glad they are not your everyday pageant judges -- No name, 06:19:49 12/04/11 Sun [1]
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Nut they have never judged a pageant, ever. No way she will be able to teach them in a class what to really look for. -- No name, 11:03:08 12/04/11 Sun [1]
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It does not take much "teaching" to spot a beautiful face! -- No name, 13:15:55 12/04/11 Sun [1]
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But "beautiful face" is only 50 percent of your score. This is still a full glitz pageant. -- No name, 16:35:02 12/04/11 Sun [1]
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Modeling isn't judged. No teaching required other than what CJ is looking for. Beautiful face, personality, and total appearance - does dress fit, does hairstyle complement child, etc. Judges don't need instruction on how to recognize those things. If they were judging modeling it would be one thing, but they aren't. -- No name, 12:31:23 12/05/11 Mon [1]
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Then it's misleading for them to put that they're looking for the total package with a gorgeous face. Modeling should be part of the score or it IS NOT total package. -- No name, 20:46:43 12/06/11 Tue [1]
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I'm afraid that cara will stress to the judges how much modeling DOES NOT count that the ones who do model will be penalized for it. Thinking of swtiching to Queen of the Crown where modeling is appreciated. -- No name, 20:47:43 12/06/11 Tue [1]
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People worried about that last year and u can see by winners list nobody was penalized for modeling well. -- No name, 23:48:27 12/06/11 Tue [1]
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Last year there were circuit judges who knew the kids. This year is normal people who do not know the kids. BIG DIFFERENCE! -- No name, 09:26:27 12/07/11 Wed [1]
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Agreed. And I am not VM. I am a normal pageant mom with a child who models well and I don't want her scored less because of it. At Queen of the Crown, they claim to be total package but they really truly are it's modeling, face, personality, overall appearance. CJ is not! CJ is face and personality. Just another AUE/Glamour Girls situation. I would expect more from Cara since she competes her own girls. If you call it total package then make it total package or don't. TOTAL PACKAGE implies that modeling will at least count in overall appearance/stage presence. -- No name, 09:54:30 12/07/11 Wed [1]
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Point taken. There was only one mention of 'total package' in my lengthy judging instructions. I have removed it. I can assure you that I also fully address different kinds of modeling with the judges, and no one will be scored off for modeling - good or bad. The criteria is all there in the judging instructions. Like another poster said, if you look at the winners from last year, you can see that no one was scored off for great modeling. It is very hard to separate an excellent model from personality & stage presence. Great models typically HAVE personality and stage presence. I have gone to great lengths to explain exactly what I want in the judging instructions. I appreciate constructive criticism as this poster has provided - I do not take this as bashing or ugliness. I would have loved it if this poster had emailed me with this opinion - always welcome to. Have a great day everyone! -- Cara Ryckman - Director, 10:34:12 12/07/11 Wed [1]
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Last year was NOT circuit judges. It was the same as this year. You apparently didn't go. -- No name, 10:23:24 12/07/11 Wed [1]
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As another poster noted here, last year was the same type of judges we have this year. We have never had circuit judges. We surveyed the contestant moms after the pageant who overwhelmingly voted to continue using ordinary people rather than going to circuit judges. There will be another survey this year (and after every pageant). -- Cara Ryckman - Director, 10:36:56 12/07/11 Wed [1]
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CR posts her judging instructions. She tells what kind of judges she has. Where else do u see that? Nowhere. I love CJ! -- No name, 11:03:46 12/07/11 Wed [1]
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Wow someone sure is worried about this pageant. DO NOT tell me that modeling and stage presence don't matter LL,DD,IR,AC,HH & many more of the top winners last year are all Very Good Models.She had judges she TRAINED but they were NOT circuit judges last year.Any one who goes out there w great stage presence is gonna score good no matter that is why there are so many NOVICE titles as well.SO the best of both worlds.Ignore these ignorant boards & look at web site for answers.Rules and what she is looking for are very clear. -- Still not understand just ask Cara .She is open & honest w all., 12:26:30 12/07/11 Wed [1]
