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div suprems and some other titles and overalls paid nothing either. it was not just queens but it was on ppw that queen and div got no cash. winners were beautiful and competition was very hard in all ages. imo, they were organized and did a great job. -- No name, 14:35:09 10/30/11 Sun [1]
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We all know who it is bitching! Storming out acting a fool outside the ballroom, upsetting her child. You should be ashamed of yourself! And if I was your husband, I would have left your ass in the parking lot! -- No name, 14:37:26 10/30/11 Sun [1]
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Well division supremes are prety much the same as being a queen in your group. Yes, knew it was on the paperwork, that's why we didn't go. For one, we know how this director kisses butt of the vendors, and 2, I won't go where they don't have enough repsect for ALL titles to give them all a cash prize- like the Division Queens and queens, -- No name, 15:32:28 10/30/11 Sun [1]
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We got div and was fine with it. there were some really beautiful girls there. Congrats to everyone! -- No name, 11:53:49 11/01/11 Tue [1]
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Winners were different than usual. The judges were ALL available to talk to after crowning and scoresheets were given out WITH the master. DWJ and TC were judging among other circuit judges AND NON circuit judges. Judges were swtiched out for every event. There was a nice little party, door decorating, trick or treating, and a little craft to do at registration. Door titles were around 200$ and they added overalls in at NO COST TO THE CONTESTANTS. I saw winners from all sorts of different coaching groups and winners from people who don't coach with anyone! I don't know why people are complaining. No, there was no money given out to division titles which was posted in ppw ahead of time and all the supremes and overalls gots money which is more than I can say for MANY national systems. The pageant ran on time except got off by about an hour at the end which was no biggie. Very good experience, WILL be back again and will recommend to others! -- No name, 12:10:15 11/01/11 Tue [1]
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OMG Hotel was bad... What Hotel did you stay in... Took forever for the water to get hot, rings in tubs, smell in rooms, and didn't look like they had dusted in months.... -- No name, 13:26:07 11/01/11 Tue [1]
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My family loved the hotel is was very fun and so was the pageant. We did not walk away with cash paying title this time but I thought all winners were very deserving. Feed back from judges was very informative and we cannot wait until next years. -- No name, 13:48:00 11/01/11 Tue [1]
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Agreed, we ahd hot water issue too but very kid friendly and free breakfast buffet and free kids meals in sports bar. -- No name, 13:51:03 11/01/11 Tue [1]
We did not win a title, How ever the problem with queens and div queens not getting cash from what I was told was.
Yes the pm's did read the paperwork and know they did not get cash, were not all stupid. But what was making pm's upset was, director added last minute titles and gave them to name kids/and some other kids who didn't win a paperwork title. And than added cash to those added last minute titles.
This is wrong imo adding extra titles is nice, but a good director should add cash to her already paid into titles on the paerwork before add new titles with cash,
and yes most nationls do give overalls and queens, division queens, And for god sakes even give their talent winner get around a100 bucks.
where or what nationals do you do? who don't even give there talent winner cash?
not right to add titles with cash when your paperwork titles were like 5 with cash and 40 without.
so stop saying over 66 tiles or what ever number you all keep coming up with, when moms say not enough titles, they mean not enough CASH TITLES.
And to add titles with cash that people didn't pay for is a slap in the ones who did pay for a title.
And to clear up the judges part, dwj and tony were not in at same time, only one good judge at the table each event, couple of them were clueless and even said they were clueless and that they never really judged before.
so there you have the truth. My guess other unknown judges were directors family or friends.
