Re: comments on Genre ppt -- GENRE IN DA

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Date Posted: 14:26:45 09/27/09 Sun
Author: Helen
Subject: Re: comments on Genre ppt
In reply to: Renata Ferreira 's message, "comments on Genre ppt" on 16:40:39 09/22/09 Tue

Yes, Renata. Most strategies cited in the text were knew for me, too. We also agree that those that will somehow respect students various interests are particularly useful.
And you are right when you say that Teacher's role can be more explored.
I'd say that teacher's role has to do with providing students with a variety of material and activities that will be meaningful to them, hence increasing the chances of recongnizing communicative events. This recognition will make students aware of aspects related to genre and text structure that, in turn, will make them more prepared for cultural and pragmatic differences in L2 acquisition.
Oh, I believe that the word 'transfer' is OK!

>GENRE
>
>I really appreciated the way you organized your
>presentation. The idea to introduce it by asking
>questions as “Why?” and “how to teach genres?” was
>very appropriate. The schemes really arranged the
>information and the layout is very clear.
>
>I totally agree with you when you say that by teaching
>genre students will be provided with many
>communicative events. Then they will be able to use
>them properly.
>
>We are exposed to a large number of genres with their
>own characteristics and structures every day. In
>order to be competent readers/speakers, students must
>be able to deal with these possibilities and their own
>specificities.
>
>This text provides many suggestions of activities that
>focus on discourse-levels of genres, written and
>spoken. I believe that some I’ve never heard before
>for example:
> -Using color coded -texts
>- Rhetorical consciousness-raising. I totally agree
>with the “problem of content” (it’s difficult to
>present an appropriate content when the students have
>different interests)
>- Translation based on a sample of instances of a
>given genre. This last one I thought very interesting.
>Student “transfer” some knowledge they have from their
>first language of a specific genre and try to apply it
>using the second language (is the word transfer
>appropriate here?) Of course they do have to pay
>attention to differences as vocabulary and verb choice
>and also formulaic expressions.
>
>Some of the suggestions are very common like:
>- Reassembly exercises: put the ideas together. Make
>small pieces of text become a unit.
>- Comparing student texts: here they can improve
>their knowledge by peer-editing.
>
>At the spoken suggestions there are also some that we
>have already heard about as:
>- using culture notes ( students should be aware of
>certain aspects that are different from culture to
>culture in order to avoid uncomfortable, impolite
>misunderstandings)
>- keep a conversation going
>- Paraphrasing (Students can improve their knowledge
>been conscious that there are many ways to say and
>write the same idea)
>
>I believe that you were able to get the gist of the
>text. The only thing that I think is lacking is the
>TEACHER in all these. The text gives some POINTS TO
>CONSIDER that should be mentioned:
>Teachers should be sure to contextualize texts, should
>begin activities of genre analysis with “known texts”
>moving on to “unknown texts” only when students are
>familiar with the basic principles and techniques,
>should remind students that there are reasons beyond
>the text for the linguistic choice people make.
>
>I would suggest creating a question for example: what
>is teacher’s role in teaching genre? or What we should
>consider?, as a conclusion after the listing of
>activities.
>
>Great job.

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