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Subject: Re: Nude during physical exam


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jean the frenchie
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Date Posted: 18:56:46 11/02/09 Mon
In reply to: Tiny 's message, "Re: Nude during physical exam" on 09:14:56 11/01/09 Sun

I think that some comments of Marjorie are interesting because they show us how things have changed in a certain way;

it is true that in the recent past years, it was common for a mother or anybody else who was in care of boys to have to remind boys under may be 16 age that they might change their socks and underwears more regularly and frequently.

It was the same in France in summer camp and boarding schools, the boys needed really a reminder or even an inspection if the supervisors wanted that they were clean.

I believe that it is different now, boys are more concerned by their cleanliness than in the past;

so in the past, it was not a sadistic attitude but boys really needed to be supervised for the cleanliness of socks and underwears( furthermore if they had not been educated by their family) and of course the body;

it seems to me very logical in a remand home where the boys needed to learn many rules of life that they had not learned in their families!

As regards the inspection of their body to look if they had not some bruises, front and back, it is also logical.

it was made also by military doctors in the russian army when they had to perform an examination of new soldiers in the navy just after their arrival on a boat.I have seen it on a documentary;

To "marjorie" ; I am not really shocked by that but I have noticed that the rules of the process of induction in the remand home were not exactly the same for girls and boys ; if i have well understood, the girls were not examined all naked together, they stripped completely first but they were examined one by one behind a curtain, it was not so similar to military physicals in group as it was for the boys. The worst humiliation would be for the older boys between 14 and 17 age, when they were examinedin plain view of each other, under that age, it was less embarrassing

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Marjorie Saunders
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Date Posted: 18:02:48 11/04/09 Wed

In reply to jean the frenchie . I agree with your comments about boys being more concerned with being clean these days and often less so in times past .
Hence as you report French boys at school or camp found themselves having to let , a presumably male ,staff member inspect their underware and private areas to see that they observed adequate personal hygiene .
At the girls remand home an element of modesty was provided for .
At the mandatory strip physical inspection aii new girls arriving were subjected to ,the girls were individually inspected by the doctor behind a screen with a nurse present with him . Not all in together waiting in the nude one behind the other waiting their turn , as was the case for the boys .
However they would have have had to obey the two women staff members in the arrival room when they were instructed to strip naked and put on a dressing gown and wait to be taken into the inspection room.

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