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Subject: Re: Nude during physical exam


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Marjorie Saunders
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Date Posted: 17:00:30 10/23/09 Fri
In reply to: jean the frenchie 's message, "Re: Nude during physical exam" on 09:11:23 10/20/09 Tue

In reply to jean the frenchie . I note your calculation in response to my estimate of how many boys I would have seen brought in for inspection during my two years attending at a boys remand home .
I might clarify the point that it must be accepted that not every week or even every month would there be new boys arriving at the centre .
The home had room to accomodate about thirty boys .
When they had no available places there would be no new boys sent there .They would go to other homes maybe further away outside London .
As boys were released , places would become available to receive the new boys .
Also at this time I was attending at a similar type of home for girls ,again as and when I was required .
This was also to assist in the Reception Area where again all new girls would have to submit to a similar inspection process .
I was kept busy as we were starting our family and this working arrangement suited me at this time .

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Richard to Marjorie
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Date Posted: 17:47:16 10/23/09 Fri

Marjorie,
With reference to the girls' medical examinations that you witnessed, did the girls see a male or a female doctor?
Would you say that these girls were embarrassed by the procedure? And, finally, did you also supervise their baths/showers?

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Marjorie Saunders
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Date Posted: 18:23:56 10/24/09 Sat

In reply to Richard ,the girls were usually examined by a male doctor , but the arrangement differed slightly from the one adopted for the boys .
This remand centre for girls held about twenty or so .
They too would have been sent from juvenile courts having received a recommended term ,some weeks or months imposed for whatever they had done wrong ,perhaps theft , violence , or maybe even ,persistent truency from school .
So they too would be subjected to a mandatory strip medical and personal hygiene inspection in the reception area .
This of course was to prevent the spread of any disease and therefore protect the other girls .
Of course any such requirement would have been embarrasing
for a girl , but they had been sent by a Court of Law for wrongdoing and would have to comply to the requirements of the remand home they now found themselves in .
Room 3 was where the girls would have explained to them some Home rules procedures and punishments if deserved etc .
They would then be taken through to the Medical Inspection waiting room where the girls would have to strip naked in the presence of two female staff and put on a supplied dressing gown .
I would take details ,weigh and measure them and take them behind a screen to see the doctor .
After a full examination each girl would leave through another door for a supervised shower .Another female staff member assisted here .

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Richard to Marjorie
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Date Posted: 15:42:50 10/27/09 Tue

Marjorie,
Can you remember what form the girls' medical took when they went to the doctor?

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Billy
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Date Posted: 10:32:46 10/24/09 Sat

Marjorie, were the boys unaccampanied while you were checking them or was it just between you and him? What ages were the boys?
I knew some boys who went to a similar home where a nurse would pay a weekly visit and check all the boys one by one for genital cleanliness after coming out of the showers. Due to the nature of the home, which was for boys with difficult behaviour problems, one member of the home staff would usually be present, sometimes a male and sometimes a female.

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Marjorie Saunders
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Date Posted: 18:44:08 10/24/09 Sat

Replying to Billy .
The area the boys were received in was a more open arrangement . Only the showers on the other side of this room were partly seperated by a low wall .
So the boys had to undress together where the doctor ,other male staff and myself were .
So it was not just a one to one arrangement .
The boys would have been aged about twelve to seventeen .
Yes each boy would have had a regular health inspection including genital examination . This would have been done by a male doctor but sometimes a woman doctor visited the home . Always a male staff member would have been present to see the boy examined .

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Cesar
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Date Posted: 02:27:11 10/27/09 Tue

So why the HELL were you allowed to be there? That's a worse punishment than being confined. I guess the boys had to learn that if they were bad they had to have a dirty perverted woman gawk at their nudity.

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